Always Right Match Committee Round 5 vs Essendon

[MrMahatma]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 5 vs Essendon

Bevo mentioned VDM is playing well in the small fwd role. He won’t be dropped to sub.

[Mantis]

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Bevo mentioned VDM is playing well in the small fwd role. He won’t be dropped to sub.

He would be leading the team in repeated sprint efforts, but are we getting much return?

In the 4 games (which includes 2 big wins) as a small forward his stats for what I see are the KPI's for this role are:

1 goal
3 goal assists
10 tackles

That isn't contributing enough from where I sit.

[whythelongface]

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He would be leading the team in repeated sprint efforts, but are we getting much return?

In the 4 games (which includes 2 big wins) as a small forward his stats for what I see are the KPI's for this role are:

1 goal
3 goal assists
10 tackles

That isn't contributing enough from where I sit.

Agree. As a small forward you need to hit the scorecard. 1 goal just isn’t enough. I get he has other attributes but really we should be asking more. Nail that on the run shot on the weekend and it could have been a different story.

[angelopetraglia]

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Treloar on his podcast said that VDM is highly valued within the four walls for the things he does for the team that don't get outside recognition. He said that the high forward role is the hardest to play in the team in regards to covering the ground, applying pressure, being in the place for the team etc. (Understand that he is going to support his teamates, but his opinion of VDM was quite high in regards to his value to the team)

It would be interesting to know what are the actual things that the coaching team are looking for. What is he being asked to do, what are they valuing.

[Mantis]

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It would be interesting to know what are the actual things that the coaching team are looking for. What is he being asked to do, what are they valuing.

Pressure acts would be high on the list.

Sure he can run fast, but does he sprinting to apply pressure lead to turnovers? I'm not sure that it does.

As wtlf mentioned Laith needs to take his chances or even 1/2 chances at goal when the opportunity arises... he doesn't really have natural forward/ crumbing instincts which limits his opportunities, but he needs to contribute to our scoring which he isn't currently doing.

[Before I Die]

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This article from the afl site may shed some light. https://www.afl.com.au/news/1100132/...iated-role/amp

[Danjul]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 5 vs Essendon

This article from the afl site may shed some light. https://www.afl.com.au/news/1100132/...iated-role/amp

Even though VDM gets into a photo the article seems to be a list of what he should be doing but isn?t.

I had high expectations of him years ago but at the moment his role seems to be simply running down opponents who got the ball because of poor disposals from VDMs teammates.

or put another way, VDM is a symptom of the deeper disease.

[westbulldog]

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Treloar sees things in VDM that 99% of our 50,415 members do not see.

[Happy Days]

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VDM career best game like 9 days ago btw.

[Mantis]

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VDM career best game like 9 days ago btw.

If we got to play WC every week (who have won 5 of their last 52 games) I'm sure we wouldn't be questioning his output... unfortunately we aren't afforded that luxury.

[angelopetraglia]

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Treloar sees things in VDM that 99% of our 50,415 members do not see.

Agree. But Treloar has an internal insight and experience that 99.9% of our members don't have.

[hujsh]

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Tom Boyd shares that vision of VDM as well you may remember. I think Adam is not lying when he says he's highly rated internally for things we don't really see/notice

[1eyedog]

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Has Garcia ever had a centre bounce attendance in any of his previous AFL games?

He?s been played solely as a small forward when it?s clear his best footy is as a midfielder, and that?s where he needs to play.

The over reliance on Libba, Bont and Treloar to be out midfield needs to end and using ?like? players to fill the void is detrimental to our performance.

I don't know but given the depth of our midfield over the past four years I would say likely not and my opinion is thank goodness he hasn't. He panics, turns the ball over by making incorrect decisions and fumbles the ball. He also gives away too many free kicks through careless acts. You can read it right here everytime he plays and that's why he's a revolving door with the MC.

He's one of those many players who dominates.at VFL level but is incapa⁵ble of stepping up. I'm being harsh but I believe it's true.

I'd bring in Harmes before Garcia it's why we drafted him.

[mjp]

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I don't know but given the depth of our midfield over the past four years I would say likely not and my opinion is thank goodness he hasn't. He panics, turns the ball over by making incorrect decisions and fumbles the ball. He also gives away too many free kicks through careless acts. You can read it right here everytime he plays and that's why he's a revolving door with the MC.

He's one of those many players who dominates.at VFL level but is incapa⁵ble of stepping up. I'm being harsh but I believe it's true.

I'd bring in Harmes before Garcia it's why we drafted him.

I'm not saying your wrong but those are typical behaviours of a player who feels they are on a selection knife edge...

[Mofra]

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He would be leading the team in repeated sprint efforts, but are we getting much return?

In the 4 games (which includes 2 big wins) as a small forward his stats for what I see are the KPI's for this role are:

1 goal
3 goal assists
10 tackles

That isn't contributing enough from where I sit.

I really feel his role is far more defensive than offensive so it's the repeat running efforts he's being judged on.
If he goes out, we need to find someone who plays the same way and I can really only see Arty as a like for like.

Essendon are without Perkins, Ridley (their best interceptor) and Wright. We are perhaps naming one defender too much but I can't see us making changes this week, especially to bring in a KPD against an undersized forward line.

If anything, I'd rotate Bont forward a little more and give Macrae more CBA time.