Always Right Match Committee Round 5 vs Essendon

[Bullies]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 5 vs Essendon

Agree. As a small forward you need to hit the scorecard. 1 goal just isn’t enough. I get he has other attributes but really we should be asking more. Nail that on the run shot on the weekend and it could have been a different story.

As a small forward getting minimal ball you need to have a great goal sense when you do get the ball. It staggers me VDM plays as a small forward and yet has a low football IQ with minimal skills. It is the reason when we knew we wouldn't get Watson we should have gone for Ginninvan.

[Mofra]

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I don't know but given the depth of our midfield over the past four years I would say likely not and my opinion is thank goodness he hasn't. He panics, turns the ball over by making incorrect decisions and fumbles the ball. He also gives away too many free kicks through careless acts. You can read it right here everytime he plays and that's why he's a revolving door with the MC.

He's one of those many players who dominates.at VFL level but is incapa⁵ble of stepping up. I'm being harsh but I believe it's true.

I'd bring in Harmes before Garcia it's why we drafted him.

I'm still not sold on Harmes and it's looking like a list management mistake. Happy to be proven wrong.

If we're talking about frees given away, VDM gives away on average, 0.75 free kicks per game. Equal 16th. Harmes in his one game gave away 3.

[Grantysghost]

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Has Garcia ever had a centre bounce attendance in any of his previous AFL games?

He?s been played solely as a small forward when it?s clear his best footy is as a midfielder, and that?s where he needs to play.

The over reliance on Libba, Bont and Treloar to be out midfield needs to end and using ?like? players to fill the void is detrimental to our performance.

Agree- I think we have kind of realised this with Weightman and Gallagher attending some stoppages. Need more though.

[Mofra]

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As a small forward getting minimal ball you need to have a great goal sense when you do get the ball. It staggers me VDM plays as a small forward and yet has a low football IQ with minimal skills. It is the reason when we knew we wouldn't get Watson we should have gone for Ginninvan.

IIRC we did chance Schultz from Freo (now Pies)

[Grantysghost]

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I don't know but given the depth of our midfield over the past four years I would say likely not and my opinion is thank goodness he hasn't. He panics, turns the ball over by making incorrect decisions and fumbles the ball. He also gives away too many free kicks through careless acts. You can read it right here everytime he plays and that's why he's a revolving door with the MC.

He's one of those many players who dominates.at VFL level but is incapa⁵ble of stepping up. I'm being harsh but I believe it's true.

I'd bring in Harmes before Garcia it's why we drafted him.

Not sure about this 1ED. He's struggled with continuity due to injury.

I really like Sonny and think he can make it as a good role playing midfielder who defends and goes forward.

Either way, the form he is in at the moment warrants selection.

[Bornadog]

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we should have gone for Ginninvan.

Totally agree

I'm still not sold on Harmes and it's looking like a list management mistake. .

I wondered why we chased him?

I really like Sonny and think he can make it as a good role playing midfielder who defends and goes forward.

I am not writing him off, but if he doesn't play this year, he is delist material

[Pleather Sole]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 5 vs Essendon

B: Richards, Jones, Williams
HB: JJ, JOD, Khamis
C: Baker, Treloar, Gags
HF: Sanders, Naughton, Weightman
F: Darcy, Marra, West
R: English, Bont, Libba
IC: Dale, Garcia, Duryea, Bramble
Sub: VDM

In: JOD, Garcia
Out: Daniel, Macrae

Dale to play as a marking forward / wing rather than a defender.

Yes please! At least try it a couple of games.

I'm with you except for VDM. I reckon he needs time at vfl to practise goalkicking.
I'd have Daniel as sub, he may have slowed but he can play just about anywhere and fresher with less game time.
Or, I'd debut Charlie and have Garcia as sub. Actually scrub that. I wouldn't bring in Clarke after a vfl bye.
I don't know what to do with Jack. He's too good for the twos but doesn't fit in the ones atm. Its weird & feels off.

[Virgin-Dog]

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I'm still not sold on Harmes and it's looking like a list management mistake. Happy to be proven wrong.

If we're talking about frees given away, VDM gives away on average, 0.75 free kicks per game. Equal 16th. Harmes in his one game gave away 3.

I think this is premature to write Harmes off. He?s had one game in the seniors (albeit a stinker) and therefore minimal chance to find his feet.
I think spending all these weeks in the VFL will have him coming back a ?better? player.

Him or Garcia (preferably the latter) should be getting a game as soon as any of our mids is injured or out of form, and given Daniel?s efforts against Geelong that may be sooner rather than later

[ratsmac]

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Barring any injuries, I'd go no change. Macrae as a sub was a mistake. Macrae is a workhorse. He runs his opponent into the ground with his workmate. He has never been quick but he has a nice step to evade. Coming on as a sub doesn't suit him to be able to impact a game. Start him on the bench and have him in the mids rotation.

Daniel also deserves more time. He didn't have much of an impact against the cats and should've been subbed earlier but we need him. The thing is we need him playing well. He is our Miers. Actually Miers is the cats Caleb Daniel who takes the dangerous kicks that cuts through defensive zones that open up the play, Caleb Daniel just hasn't been himself that we know he can be.

For me both Macrae and Daniel have earned the right to have another week to prove that they still hold value to the team.

If there has to be a change, it's Harmes to tag Merret. His sole job to bang into Merret at every contest and make his night miserable.

No change

Or

In - Harmes
Out - Bramble/Gallagher

[Mantis]

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Barring any injuries, I'd go no change. Macrae as a sub was a mistake. Macrae is a workhorse. He runs his opponent into the ground with his workmate. He has never been quick but he has a nice step to evade. Coming on as a sub doesn't suit him to be able to impact a game. Start him on the bench and have him in the mids rotation.

Daniel also deserves more time. He didn't have much of an impact against the cats and should've been subbed earlier but we need him. The thing is we need him playing well. He is our Miers. Actually Miers is the cats Caleb Daniel who takes the dangerous kicks that cuts through defensive zones that open up the play, Caleb Daniel just hasn't been himself that we know he can be.

For me both Macrae and Daniel have earned the right to have another week to prove that they still hold value to the team.

If there has to be a change, it's Harmes to tag Merret. His sole job to bang into Merret at every contest and make his night miserable.

No change

Or

In - Harmes
Out - Bramble/Gallagher

Not to be disparaging but comments in this post might be relevant in 2022 but I?m not sure it is.

The cold hard facts are that the players this post discusses in the main have had the opportunity to make us a better a team over the last number of years but we?ve languished in the 8-12 section, when our top end talent suggests we should be in the top 6.

Based on the comments from Bevo post the Geelong game I believe the penny has dropped and we will see the mix change moving forward.

[Dazza]

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Only change I'd make is Vandemeer as sub.

[jazzadogs]

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I think this is premature to write Harmes off. He?s had one game in the seniors (albeit a stinker) and therefore minimal chance to find his feet.
I think spending all these weeks in the VFL will have him coming back a ?better? player.

Him or Garcia (preferably the latter) should be getting a game as soon as any of our mids is injured or out of form, and given Daniel?s efforts against Geelong that may be sooner rather than later

I think the issue is that his game in round one was reflective of most AFL games he has played since 2021.
And the VFL game was reflective of his VFL performances in that time.

We have got the exact guy that we recruited. For the sake of the team I hope he proves me wrong... But he won't.

[The Underdog]

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Only change I'd make is Vandemeer as sub.

But who replaces his role in the 22?

[Danjul]

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Not to be disparaging but comments in this post might be relevant in 2022 but I?m not sure it is.

The cold hard facts are that the players this post discusses in the main have had the opportunity to make us a better a team over the last number of years but we?ve languished in the 8-12 section, when our top end talent suggests we should be in the top 6.

Based on the comments from Bevo post the Geelong game I believe the penny has dropped and we will see the mix change moving forward.

l think you have quoted the wrong year. In 2022 we destroyed Collingwood in the middle of the season. Humiliated them, they were never within 5 goals and the dogs finished up double their score.

english didn’t play, Cleary did.
Weightman didn’t play, Khamis got 3 goals.

The team was swept along by players who less than 2 years later can’t get a game.


The Dogs had a hundred more possessions Then the teams diverged. Collingwood missed getting into the grand final by 1 point and then won the next.

The Dogs had over 400 possessions that day. The next time they got 400 possessions in a game was against Geelong in 2023. Boker 22 possessions, Arty 7. O’Donnell 7. Naughton 1 goal and Weightman 1 goal.

Who got dropped for the following game? Baker to the sub. Jones played..zero possessions. O’Donnell played.. 5 possessions.

It hasn’t been the aging players letting the team down, although they might be tiring from carrying it. It has been the crazy selections. And I still see it.

[PR0408]

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I think if any changes just one. CD will go out and JOD will come in.
Team balance looks better.
I?m not sure who the sub would be though.