Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

[jazzadogs]

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That explanation doesn't wash with me.

In my simplistic mind it's much easier to drop Garcia, who by no means deserves to be demoted rather than make the tough call on a Daniel or Macrae who continue to under-perform due to the ''bashing'' he copped earlier in the season.

As previously stated, there are clearly different rules & standards for different players which is shit.

Or is the standard the same, and not easy for fans to objectively measure?

If it is about GPS numbers, positioning in the zone, playing his assigned role - maybe Macrae and Daniel are doing that better? They're not getting 30 touches but they must be playing a role.

Also the 'tough call' on Macrae and Daniel has already been made earlier this year! Now the tough call is on Garcia. He needs to listen to the feedback (which from Bevo's presser, sounds like it will be pretty clear) and improve. It would piss me off if he sooks off to another club because he's not a walk up start.

I don't disagree that dropping Garcia before Daniel is surprising, but I don't think it's because standards are different.

[Grantysghost]

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That explanation doesn't wash with me.

In my simplistic mind it's much easier to drop Garcia, who by no means deserves to be demoted rather than make the tough call on a Daniel or Macrae who continue to under-perform due to the ''bashing'' he copped earlier in the season.

As previously stated, there are clearly different rules & standards for different players which is shit.

Caleb before Garcia atm is a little interesting. All I can think is they play different roles. Seriously though what is Caleb's role ? He seems to look out of position all the time atm.

[mighty_west]

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Happy with the in's but like most others the Garcia omission is a strange one, more so that he isn't even listed as an emergency is just weird, which i understand his output may have dropped a bit and a few too many turnovers etc but his pressure was right up there, he also wasn't given enough time in the middle too especially when Bont was taken out of the game and Libba was a shell of himself, those are the decisions that stagger me and again like others have stated, why play him in the middle in the VFL and gather 30 odd possies, being in the bests, but then be promoted and play a completely different role? Likewise with not playing JOD back and moving Bont to CHF, Brissy were licking their lips thinking awesome, we get the shit Bulldogs team this week and not the one with a good structure playing dare in the middle which was brought out against the Swans and Collingwood.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Some players get a lot more rope than others. It's the case at most clubs.

It's just annoying that for us, Garcia is one that gets less, while others less talented (Bramble) get more.

Each year, the MC get a new favourite (i.e. Gowers, Gardner, McComb, Baker, now Bramble) who will be gifted games for at least 1 full season before eventually falling off the cliff (literally all of Gowers, Gardner, McComb).

I like Gallagher but some of his running patterns and bad habits (i.e. kicking into the man or kicking off the ground when he should PICK the ball up) go unpunished. I'm not sure how there's ANY justification for picking Daniel over Garcia either.

I don't really cop Bevo's explanation.

[jeemak]

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Why would Beveridge go out in public and lie about the reasons he dropped Garcia and jeopardise the relationship he has with him?

He has basically said in plain English Garcia isn't performing in team defence and lacked a bit of quality. I mean he could be telling porkies, but I don't see how that would help him or anyone.

[Grantysghost]

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Why would Beveridge go out in public and lie about the reasons he dropped Garcia and jeopardise the relationship he has with him?

He has basically said in plain English Garcia isn't performing in team defence and lacked a bit of quality. I mean he could be telling porkies, but I don't see how that would help him or anyone.

Yes it would have to align with the internal message otherwise you'd completely undermine any trust you have with the player. I don't see that being Bevo's style at all, or any coach's for that matter.

[Bornadog]

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Why would Beveridge go out in public and lie about the reasons he dropped Garcia and jeopardise the relationship he has with him?

He has basically said in plain English Garcia isn't performing in team defence and lacked a bit of quality. I mean he could be telling porkies, but I don't see how that would help him or anyone.

Said the same about Sanders when he was dropped, and to his credit, took it on board and is back in the team. Dale was dropped, Macrae was dropped, Daniel was dropped. I see this season alot different to others as we are trying to change it up and not go same old, plus we have some youngsters that have earned their games, unlike in the past when we didn't have replacements and were forced to play some players.

[Mantis]

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Why would Beveridge go out in public and lie about the reasons he dropped Garcia and jeopardise the relationship he has with him?

He has basically said in plain English Garcia isn't performing in team defence and lacked a bit of quality. I mean he could be telling porkies, but I don't see how that would help him or anyone.

It's not the matter of him lying, it's the matter of him making up BS reasons for dropping a player who has been performing well in a largely unsuitable role.

Sure, he wasn't amazing last week, but our starting midfield (including wings) had their collective asses handed to them, our defensive structure fell apart time and time again and we coughed up possession either under pressure or in open play.

In our loss to Sydney Garcia was in our best 5-6 players and then had an extremely strong last qtr to help us get a win against Collingwood. When comparing these performances to his peers one would hope he would have a few extra credits, but clearly that isn't the case.

[GVGjr]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

Why would Beveridge go out in public and lie about the reasons he dropped Garcia and jeopardise the relationship he has with him?

He has basically said in plain English Garcia isn't performing in team defence and lacked a bit of quality. I mean he could be telling porkies, but I don't see how that would help him or anyone.

Same here, I don't think Bevo would explain his reasoning for Garcia's omission with the media if it doesn't match-up with what they've explained to the player. Sanders talked about how the communication is clear on what players need to do to earn a recall.
I saw Lade spending some time talking to Garcia on Wednesday so I think he knew early in the week what he needed to work on.

I get the arguments about Daniel and to a lesser extent Macrae being down on form and candidates for being dropped but I do accept Bevo's reasons for Garcia's surprise omission.

[merantau]

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The heat is on our midfield, Tim English and Rory Lobb. Unless they step right up, roll up their sleeves, put their shoulders to the wheel, get on the front foot and leave no stone unturned we will be blown out of the water. Time to put your hands up and DO SOMETHING!

[Bornadog]

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The heat is on our midfield, Tim English and Rory Lobb. Unless they step right up, roll up their sleeves, put their shoulders to the wheel, get on the front foot and leave no stone unturned we will be blown out of the water. Time to put your hands up and DO SOMETHING!

Especially Lobb. He seems to be down in confidence at the moment. Hopefully he is motivated enough to beat his old team

[kickit2Koly]

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Or is the standard the same, and not easy for fans to objectively measure?

If it is about GPS numbers, positioning in the zone, playing his assigned role - maybe Macrae and Daniel are doing that better? They're not getting 30 touches but they must be playing a role.

Also the 'tough call' on Macrae and Daniel has already been made earlier this year! Now the tough call is on Garcia. He needs to listen to the feedback (which from Bevo's presser, sounds like it will be pretty clear) and improve. It would piss me off if he sooks off to another club because he's not a walk up start.

I don't disagree that dropping Garcia before Daniel is surprising, but I don't think it's because standards are different.

I agree with this, I also think Garcia has struggled with the new holding the ball interpretation. I haven't seen the stats to back this up but last week I feel like he got done holding the ball at least 3 or 4 times. From memory there was a couple more against the Pies as well.

having said that, I like what he brings and was a little surprised he got dropped before others.

[Bornadog]

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Hopefully Bont is right to go, Bevo says he has been ill and is the reason he didn't train all week. In fact played against Collingwood as well feeling ordinary.

[Uninformed]

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I always really enjoy the sense of how the coach and assistants are able to see things the team need to do better to improve, and from that, what individuals need to learn to improve the team. To me Garcia seemed to be going well and brought some much needed pace, agility and hardness. But obviously there is much more to the game plan than an average punter like me is aware of.

[whythelongface]

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Are so many others have posted, the omission of Garcia makes little sense relative to the players retained on the side. If I was him, I would be contemplating a move to Perth.

Why? Cause he has been dropped? Gee if every player spat the dummy and wanted to go because they deem they are not getting a fair go, then you would have a hell of a players on the table seeking a request. He just needs to improve in certain areas to be a consistent performer to get a regular gig