Close games - what is going wrong?

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    #31
    Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

    So todays going to be different right?
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      #32
      Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      So todays going to be different right?
      Right?
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        #33
        Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Right?
        Can’t win close games. Broken players.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • angelopetraglia
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6786

          #34
          Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

          Every single close game we lose. Today wasn?t unlucky.

          We hit the front. Then either made stupid decisions like the Jones kick to a 50/50 in space or just got beaten in big moments when it mattered.

          We are broken. Imagine the difference in belief and energy if we even halved those close losses.9 in a row under 10 points.

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          • macca
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2007
            • 2352

            #35
            Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

            Originally posted by angelopetraglia
            Every single close game we lose. Today wasn?t unlucky.

            We hit the front. Then either made stupid decisions like the Jones kick to a 50/50 in space orjust got beaten in big moments when it mattered.

            We are broken. Imagine the difference in belief and energy if we even halved those close losses.9 in a row under 10 points.
            That is the biggest problem with this group. When it matters, the opponent finds a way to beat them or they make stupid mistake

            JJ terrible kick in the last quarter. He needs to be dropped and we start preparing his replacement

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5575

              #36
              Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

              It's pretty incredible really...9 in a row under 14 points have been lost.

              Flip them...

              We finish last year with an extra 7 wins. 19 and 4 losses! We're top of the ladder!

              This year...
              If we'd beaten Cats and Hawks...we're 5-3, sitting fourth!

              Is it:
              - a coaching issue that gets us in losing positions?
              - a playing issue that can't handle the heat of a close game?

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              • Happy Days
                Hall of Fame
                • May 2008
                • 10087

                #37
                Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

                I honestly believe the group proves to themselves that they *could* win the game and lose a ton of edge once they do so. It’s why we kick the first three goals actually every week.
                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                • angelopetraglia
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 6786

                  #38
                  Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

                  Originally posted by jazzadogs
                  It's pretty incredible really...9 in a row under 14 points have been lost.

                  Flip them...

                  We finish last year with an extra 7 wins. 19 and 4 losses! We're top of the ladder!

                  This year...
                  If we'd beaten Cats and Hawks...we're 5-3, sitting fourth!

                  Is it:
                  - a coaching issue that gets us in losing positions?
                  - a playing issue that can't handle the heat of a close game?
                  That is just crazy and just shows you how important it is to win those close games, even when you have a bad day, which is what the Pies have done for two years now.

                  The Pies put in a horror show performance against the Hawks, but hung on to win by under a goal.

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                  • Ozza
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6403

                    #39
                    Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

                    Bont and English off the ground for significant minutes when the game was up for grabs.

                    When I spotted Bont running off I immediately thought 'how long is it going to be this week before we get him back on'. It felt like an hour!

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                    • SonofScray
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 4214

                      #40
                      Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

                      Our coach isn't capable of setting these players up to succeed.
                      Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15322

                        #41
                        Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

                        Originally posted by Ozza
                        Bont and English off the ground for significant minutes when the game was up for grabs.

                        When I spotted Bont running off I immediately thought 'how long is it going to be this week before we get him back on'. It felt like an hour!
                        It was a diabolical mistake on our behalf... the ball was stuck on the outer wing for a good 4-5min and we weren't willing to play 1 short for 20-30sec to get the competitions best player on the ground... makes sense to me.

                        In those instances, not having the ability to use the runner to facilitate a change is far from ideal.

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                        • Ozza
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6403

                          #42
                          Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          It was a diabolical mistake on our behalf... the ball was stuck on the outer wing for a good 4-5min and we weren't willing to play 1 short for 20-30sec to get the competitions best player on the ground... makes sense to me.

                          In those instances, not having the ability to use the runner to facilitate a change is far from ideal.
                          But after it happened just last week - surely we put something in place to ensure someone out there will get the hint that they HAVE to come off. We had the opportunity to review what happened last week and address it, and chose not to.

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                          • SonofScray
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4214

                            #43
                            Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

                            Originally posted by jazzadogs
                            It's pretty incredible really...9 in a row under 14 points have been lost.

                            Flip them...

                            We finish last year with an extra 7 wins. 19 and 4 losses! We're top of the ladder!

                            This year...
                            If we'd beaten Cats and Hawks...we're 5-3, sitting fourth!

                            Is it:
                            - a coaching issue that gets us in losing positions?
                            - a playing issue that can't handle the heat of a close game?
                            Its a coaching issue.

                            Even if the players are soft and really lacking the sort of G&D we expect from our teams, that is simply a reflection of the coach anyway.

                            Its clear as day, has been for years and we've all been conned of years of enjoyment at the footy.
                            Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                            • The Bulldogs Bite
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 11117

                              #44
                              Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

                              Originally posted by SonofScray

                              Its clear as day, has been for years and we've all been conned of years of enjoyment at the footy.
                              This shouldn't be lost on the club, but seemingly is.

                              We've been horrific to watch for 2.5 seasons. I could barely name one enjoyable game in that stretch - and by enjoyable, I mean one where we play well and win vs good opposition.

                              I've only been to 2 games this year and I might not go again. I've been a member for 30+ years and I've never been as disengaged with our identity.
                              W00F!

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66135

                                #45
                                Re: Close games - what is going wrong?

                                Originally posted by Ozza
                                Bont and English off the ground for significant minutes when the game was up for grabs.

                                When I spotted Bont running off I immediately thought 'how long is it going to be this week before we get him back on'. It felt like an hour!
                                Bring back the runners
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