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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7305

    Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

    Watching the game yesterday - the score was close and there was not long to go. Liber is kicked in the head (accidentally) and is bleeding EVERYWHERE. He has to go off.

    There is a blood rule. Clock stops, new player on, bleeding player off...clock starts.

    Somehow between our coaches, bench and players, we have a couple of trainers slowly escorting Liber off whilst play goes on...effectively putting us one short in the defensive zone.

    How do we allow stuff like this to happen?
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66138

    #2
    Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

    Originally posted by mjp
    Watching the game yesterday - the score was close and there was not long to go. Liber is kicked in the head (accidentally) and is bleeding EVERYWHERE. He has to go off.

    There is a blood rule. Clock stops, new player on, bleeding player off...clock starts.

    Somehow between our coaches, bench and players, we have a couple of trainers slowly escorting Liber off whilst play goes on...effectively putting us one short in the defensive zone.

    How do we allow stuff like this to happen?
    Play cannot start till the bleeding player is off and the new player runs to their position. Did the umpires do this correctly?

    I was at the game and did not see this happen as I didn't see the blood?
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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7305

      #3
      Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Play cannot start till the bleeding player is off and the new player runs to their position. Did the umpires do this correctly?

      I was at the game and did not see this happen as I didn't see the blood?
      The umpires need to SEE the blood to stop the game.

      Our players and staff should have made sure that they did!!!
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66138

        #4
        Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

        Originally posted by mjp
        The umpires need to SEE the blood to stop the game.

        Our players and staff should have made sure that they did!!!
        Totally agree - that is bad
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          #5
          Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

          Originally posted by mjp
          Watching the game yesterday - the score was close and there was not long to go. Liber is kicked in the head (accidentally) and is bleeding EVERYWHERE. He has to go off.

          There is a blood rule. Clock stops, new player on, bleeding player off...clock starts.

          Somehow between our coaches, bench and players, we have a couple of trainers slowly escorting Liber off whilst play goes on...effectively putting us one short in the defensive zone.

          How do we allow stuff like this to happen?
          Stupidity, now you mention it. Someone should’ve hit the umpires attention and stopped the game momentum which was against us and stop the clock until we had 18 on the ground.

          Really poor. Great pick up.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7305

            #6
            Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

            So - when you watch the Rugby League, they ALWAYS rest on OFFENCE. Whenever they are stuffed, they will take a knee for 20-seconds and drop behind the line when they have the ball...but on defence it is every man up.

            We still see AFL players rotating off the ground when the ball is in dispute/in oppo hands whilst in their own forward 50....kick-ins are a great example. This is so dumb - and to me this was just an extension of that.

            Injured player - get them off...not much you can do. Bleeding player? Stop the GAME!
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              #7
              Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

              Originally posted by mjp
              So - when you watch the Rugby League, they ALWAYS rest on OFFENCE. Whenever they are stuffed, they will take a knee for 20-seconds and drop behind the line when they have the ball...but on defence it is every man up.

              We still see AFL players rotating off the ground when the ball is in dispute/in oppo hands whilst in their own forward 50....kick-ins are a great example. This is so dumb - and to me this was just an extension of that.

              Injured player - get them off...not much you can do. Bleeding player? Stop the GAME!
              I have a feeling that if someone at the club found out about this obvious stuff up, it might make a mention in educating all those on the field. The more on thinking about, it’s hard to believe in an allegedly professional club that we would not know to do this. I mean if st a stoppage Cicily or Meek or Newcombe had blood we’d be pointing it out to stop the game. Yet when we had the chance with one of our own, we decided to play a man down with the game on the line. Crazy.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • merantau
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2015
                • 3974

                #8
                Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

                Yes, we noticed that. A complete stuff up. Another example of our dumb football.
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66138

                  #9
                  Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

                  I get pissed off when players are bleeding and they try and hide it and won’t leave the ground.

                  Not related to Libba’s incident
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                  • mjp
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7305

                    #10
                    Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    I get pissed off when players are bleeding and they try and hide it and won’t leave the ground.

                    Not related to Libba’s incident
                    If I was Bont and it was late in the game I would hide it at all costs.

                    Getting back on the ground is not easy.
                    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66138

                      #11
                      Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

                      Originally posted by mjp
                      If I was Bont and it was late in the game I would hide it at all costs.

                      Getting back on the ground is not easy.
                      Runners, oh wait another bullshit decision by AFL
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5576

                        #12
                        Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

                        He was also actively bleeding about 1m away from the umpire. I couldn't believe they didn't call blood rule at the time.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66138

                          #13
                          Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

                          Originally posted by jazzadogs
                          He was also actively bleeding about 1m away from the umpire. I couldn't believe they didn't call blood rule at the time.
                          4 umpires and they still miss stuff - this was unforgiveable
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • mjp
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7305

                            #14
                            Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

                            Originally posted by jazzadogs
                            He was also actively bleeding about 1m away from the umpire. I couldn't believe they didn't call blood rule at the time.
                            Players and trainers are at fault - speak up.

                            "He's bleeding - look - look - he's bleeding..."
                            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44316

                              #15
                              Re: Last Q vs Hawks: Simple Question

                              Originally posted by mjp
                              Players and trainers are at fault - speak up.

                              "He's bleeding - look - look - he's bleeding..."
                              Could some of the players feel like they're breaking the code by dobbing in an opponent?
                              Seems strange that they don't do it.
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