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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15327

    #76
    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Originally posted by hujsh
    So at the oldest they're in the absolute prime of their life, right?
    Originally posted by bornadog
    Bont the best Mid in the AFL, Treloar not far behind and getting more disposals than any other player and Libba a stoppage clearance king, averaging more than any other player in AFL, however, they are ageing and another reason why Smith must stay, Sanders fast tracked and guys like Garcia given a go.
    Yep, they're all amazing and we're 11th on the ladder... go figure.

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    • my plums
      Rookie List
      • Aug 2022
      • 141

      #77
      Re: Garcia v Gallagher

      I just think we need more rotation through there. The more the merrier. Richards, Garcia, Sanders, West, Gags. Change it up when it is not working.

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15213

        #78
        Re: Garcia v Gallagher

        Originally posted by hujsh
        So at the oldest they're in the absolute prime of their life, right?
        Originally posted by bornadog
        Bont the best Mid in the AFL, Treloar not far behind and getting more disposals than any other player and Libba a stoppage clearance king, averaging more than any other player in AFL, however, they are ageing and another reason why Smith must stay, Sanders fast tracked and guys like Garcia given a go.
        Originally posted by Mantis
        Yep, they're all amazing and we're 11th on the ladder... go figure.
        I think hujsh was looking for his own validation and not necessarily validation for our midfielders...
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66215

          #79
          Re: Garcia v Gallagher

          Originally posted by azabob
          I think hujsh was looking for his own validation and not necessarily validation for our midfielders...
          There is more to a team than just mids. The bottom six players must also contribute, and we have struggled this year because our bottom six have all been players with less than 50 games and still developing.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11844

            #80
            Re: Garcia v Gallagher

            Originally posted by azabob
            I think hujsh was looking for his own validation and not necessarily validation for our midfielders...
            Happy Days probably summed the whole thing up best. As an addendum I'm pretty sure I heard that 80 is the new 60 the other day so if we filter than down 32 is like 24 at most. In other words we should see the best of all 3 in like 5 years or so.
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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            • D Mitchell
              Draftee
              • Jan 2023
              • 653

              #81
              Re: Garcia v Gallagher

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Yep, they're all amazing and we're 11th on the ladder... go figure.
              A team with some champions, not a champion team

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              • Rocco Jones
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jun 2008
                • 6924

                #82
                Re: Garcia v Gallagher

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Yep, they're all amazing and we're 11th on the ladder... go figure.
                We have the best SuperCoach midfield.

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                • Scorlibo
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 3075

                  #83
                  Re: Garcia v Gallagher

                  Gallagher is still on track to crack the top 5 for lowest average player rating of all time for players to have played every game in the regular season.

                  1. Ryan Crowley - 4.15 (2013)
                  2. Bailey Banfield - 4.27 (2022)
                  3. Harvey Gallagher - 4.54 (2024)
                  4. Ryan Crowley - 5.03 (2014)
                  5. Noah Answerth - 5.12 (2022)

                  Garcia averages 9.9 and is 9th among Dogs players this year.
                  'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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                  • PR0408
                    Rookie List
                    • Nov 2023
                    • 166

                    #84
                    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

                    Originally posted by Scorlibo
                    Gallagher is still on track to crack the top 5 for lowest average player rating of all time for players to have played every game in the regular season.

                    1. Ryan Crowley - 4.15 (2013)
                    2. Bailey Banfield - 4.27 (2022)
                    3. Harvey Gallagher - 4.54 (2024)
                    4. Ryan Crowley - 5.03 (2014)
                    5. Noah Answerth - 5.12 (2022)

                    Garcia averages 9.9 and is 9th among Dogs players this year.
                    So what those rating systems are not flawless.

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21614

                      #85
                      Re: Garcia v Gallagher

                      Originally posted by PR0408
                      So what those rating systems are not flawless.
                      I mean, they're not but they are relatively objective, as much as objective inputs ruin discussion (so get your shit together Scorlibo).
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15213

                        #86
                        Re: Garcia v Gallagher

                        Originally posted by PR0408
                        So what those rating systems are not flawless.
                        Normally I would agree stats like this are meaningless but Scoribo tends to have a knack of nailing statistics and which rating systems to use for which argument. A few woof posters have tried to go head to head and have lost.
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21614

                          #87
                          Re: Garcia v Gallagher

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          Normally I would agree stats like this are meaningless but Scoribo tends to have a knack of nailing statistics and which rating systems to use for which argument. A few woof posters have tried to go head to head and have lost.
                          Lucky there's no narcs around who might name them.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18912

                            #88
                            Re: Garcia v Gallagher

                            Originally posted by Scorlibo
                            Gallagher is still on track to crack the top 5 for lowest average player rating of all time for players to have played every game in the regular season.

                            1. Ryan Crowley - 4.15 (2013)
                            2. Bailey Banfield - 4.27 (2022)
                            3. Harvey Gallagher - 4.54 (2024)
                            4. Ryan Crowley - 5.03 (2014)
                            5. Noah Answerth - 5.12 (2022)

                            Garcia averages 9.9 and is 9th among Dogs players this year.
                            The relevant question for me is why someone like Gaggs is rusted in the team and others like Garcia are not.

                            My guess is turnover game which the coaches rate so highly ergo what he does without the ball. Not sure the ratings points pick up unrewarded acts like positioning and working hard defensively even if not involved directly.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • Rocco Jones
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6924

                              #89
                              Re: Garcia v Gallagher

                              Originally posted by Grantysghost
                              The relevant question for me is why someone like Gaggs is rusted in the team and others like Garcia are not.

                              My guess is turnover game which the coaches rate so highly ergo what he does without the ball. Not sure the ratings points pick up unrewarded acts like positioning and working hard defensively even if not involved directly.
                              I think you answered your own question with the last bit. Definitely not saying Gags should be in every week, but you look at the rest of that list and it's that type of player.

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                              • kruder
                                Coaching Staff
                                • May 2011
                                • 3790

                                #90
                                Re: Garcia v Gallagher

                                Gags is down on confidence its bloody clear as day, Ive liked him from day one he has AFL attributes but he should have been back in the VFL weeks ago playing mid and developing his craft.

                                I just hope Garcia signs on, Bevo playing the long game with him I understand but that side we are putting out on the weekend its the worst side we have fielded on paper this year. He should be playing this week.

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