The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

[Grantysghost]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

Second time this weekend you've posted about Bevo getting a call from Sanders dad...but prior to that I'd never heard anything about it. Where has this info come from?

And with the reaction to getting subbed - for something that supposedly happened at an AFL ground with hundreds of cameras there's no footage of it. This all came up at the height of 'sack Bevo', 'dogs are cooked' - is there even any truth to this?

He seems to have taken his demotion to the VFL pretty professionally from what I've seen, and explained it well in interviews where he clearly understood the reasoning.

I'm with you here JD. Nothing story. If you weren't driven like he is then you wouldn't be the success he has been so far.
Marra was borderline arrogant early doors, it was just insane drive mixed with big fish small pond sydrome and innocent naiviety.

If the Dad thing is legit, well i guess he cares about his son. It was probably a perfectly reasonable conversation to have. Doesn't have to be sinister, could be just a check in to see how he thinks Riley is travelling and was totally mature and amicable (as would be expected).

I ask my nephew's coach questions.

[hujsh]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

Second time this weekend you've posted about Bevo getting a call from Sanders dad...but prior to that I'd never heard anything about it. Where has this info come from?

And with the reaction to getting subbed - for something that supposedly happened at an AFL ground with hundreds of cameras there's no footage of it. This all came up at the height of 'sack Bevo', 'dogs are cooked' - is there even any truth to this?

He seems to have taken his demotion to the VFL pretty professionally from what I've seen, and explained it well in interviews where he clearly understood the reasoning.

Wasn't that where he was swearing and visibly upset after being subbed?

I can't find much except this quote and picture. Not sure if they showed it on the coverage but I'm not going to go back and check.

Also I wouldn't try and read much into it myself without knowing the guy. It can be a reasonable and encouraging reaction to be frustrated at being subbed off.

[Bornadog]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

Wasn't that where he was swearing and visibly upset after being subbed?

I can't find much except this quote and picture. Not sure if they showed it on the coverage but I'm not going to go back and chack

He was disappointed in his own performance, but medja make a big deal out of it and change the situation to suit their story

[Grantysghost]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

Wasn't that where he was swearing and visibly upset after being subbed?

I can't find much except this quote and picture. Not sure if they showed it on the coverage but I'm not going to go back and check.

Also I wouldn't try and read much into it myself without knowing the guy. It can be a reasonable and encouraging reaction to be frustrated at being subbed off.

Great passion. Probably mad at himself and a victim of his own expectations.

I saw an u/14 scream fk and throw his mouth guard today when he leaked a goal.

[jazzadogs]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

Dog God raised it in the match day thread on Friday night.

Sorry, didn't go back to check so figured both posts were Bullies.

Regardless, outside of the match day thread and here I haven't seen anything about it.

I have no problem with Sanders and think he's had an encouraging start to his career in a difficult role. He's not the big kahuna like Reid has been in West Coasts midfield, and he's not getting cheap kicks across half back like Daicos and Sheezel did - he's playing half forward with stints in the midfield. Macrae and Bailey Smith struggled to play that role but we're getting angry at a kid for not nailing it?

[Bullies]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

Second time this weekend you've posted about Bevo getting a call from Sanders dad...but prior to that I'd never heard anything about it. Where has this info come from?

And with the reaction to getting subbed - for something that supposedly happened at an AFL ground with hundreds of cameras there's no footage of it. This all came up at the height of 'sack Bevo', 'dogs are cooked' - is there even any truth to this?

He seems to have taken his demotion to the VFL pretty professionally from what I've seen, and explained it well in interviews where he clearly understood the reasoning.

First time I've raised it on here andi heard it through the media. If you read my posts i said some time ago after his "dummy spit" that the club asked him to go back into the 2's and learn the other side of his game which was to defend. Something he never had to do as a junior. He still has a lot to learn and his second half was encouraging after an ordinary first half. At the moment if we a full list available he is probably not in the best 22.

[GVGjr]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

First time I've raised it on here andi heard it through the media. If you read my posts i said some time ago after his "dummy spit" that the club asked him to go back into the 2's and learn the other side of his game which was to defend. Something he never had to do as a junior. He still has a lot to learn and his second half was encouraging after an ordinary first half. At the moment if we a full list available he is probably not in the best 22.

At the moment Sanders plays one or two positions and while I agree that if we had a full and healthy list it would be hard to see him regularly in our best 22 I do believe he has performed well enough in recent weeks.
The only reason why I have some doubts that a call was made by his father is that Sanders was highly complementary on the communication he receives from Lade in particular and Bevo on what he needs to do both for the senior and VFL teams.
Those sorts of calls would only be made to seek clarity and that doesn't appear to be the issue. He probably cracked the shits being benched but he got over that quickly.

[SquirrelGrip]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

This is such a false narrative about Ryley. He is driven and determined, with extremely high standards on himself. There was no "dummy spit" at the coaches. He was annoyed with himself that he wasn't performing at the level he demands for himself.

I think this is great and can't wait for him to maintain those standards over the next 15 years at the club, and drive similar standards for the draftees and recruits that follow him.

Ryley's Dad is also a good fella and a coach himself. Having met him, he's not the type to be having a go at other coaches with demands on how they manage his son. If he did in fact call Bevo - and Bevo himself has said before how he builds relationships with the players' families not just the players, so it could even have been Bevo calling him - then it would be constructive to help Ryley continue to learn to play and understand the demands of AFL.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

Great passion. Probably mad at himself and a victim of his own expectations.

I saw an u/14 scream fk and throw his mouth guard today when he leaked a goal.

My U11 screamed F*CK when he missed a tackle and it resulted in a goal.......much chuckling on the sidelines by parents.....sooner have a passionate kid than one who doesn't give a sh*t

[kickit2Koly]

Re: The New breed, a refresh/Evolution

My U11 screamed F*CK when he missed a tackle and it resulted in a goal.......much chuckling on the sidelines by parents.....sooner have a passionate kid than one who doesn't give a sh*t

Agree 100%. Not sure If any of you are NFL fans but Mike Tomlin, head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers has a great quote around this. One of his star young players had a dummy spit on the side lines during a game. When asked by a report about it his response was,

I'd rather say whoa than sic 'em. I want a guy that wants to be a significant part of what it is we do … the mature way to express that, we’re working on. That competitive spirit of a guy that wants the ball, I want that guy."