Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

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  • JanLorMill
    WOOF Member
    • Feb 2023
    • 1743

    #361
    Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

    Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
    I?m not sure why ?in hindsight? we blame the midfield group but we don?t make any changes until 10 minutes left in the game.
    Surly the coaching group can see that Buku sitting on the bench would have helped out the back 6 and allowed further moves to benifotbyhw side

    We need to not be so stubborn and be more flexible. This was sto a get table game at 1-2 time but unfortunately at 3/4 time it was not
    How does putting in a defender or forward help the midfield? The midfield that played was all we had available.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67687

      #362
      Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

      Originally posted by JanLorMill
      How does putting in a defender or forward help the midfield? The midfield that played was all we had available.
      Agree, midfield got smashed last night - Clearances, Cont Poss was all one way.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 19366

        #363
        Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Agree, midfield got smashed last night - Clearances, Cont Poss was all one way.
        Made me realise how big a loss Dunks was and how ripped off we got because the players can choose clubs.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #364
          Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          Made me realise how big a loss Dunks was and how ripped off we got because the players can choose clubs.
          Don’t read here or the media in October…
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10119

            #365
            Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            Don’t read here or the media in October…
            I'll read both because we'll be ridding ourselves of Smith, Lobb and English and the way forward will become clearer.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #366
              Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

              Originally posted by EasternWest
              I'll read both because we'll be ridding ourselves of Smith, Lobb and English and the way forward will become clearer.
              Don’t think it will stop at those either, at least CD and maybe Macrae might be elsewhere too. And I’m increasingly worried Lobb won’t have a trade that’s remotely acceptable. His form is a future fourth and most salary paid. He can play VFL for us if that’s the case.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 19366

                #367
                Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

                Originally posted by EasternWest
                I'll read both because we'll be ridding ourselves of Smith, Lobb and English and the way forward will become clearer.
                It's pretty annoying having players keeping the club in the dark this far along in the year.

                We are 16 weeks from October.

                Edit : 17 weeks and 1 day to start of trade week.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • SonofScray
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 4284

                  #368
                  Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

                  Originally posted by Grantysghost
                  Made me realise how big a loss Dunks was and how ripped off we got because the players can choose clubs.
                  That element of trades needs to be sorted. Take it away from the players.
                  Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                  • D Mitchell
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2023
                    • 654

                    #369
                    Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Good summary Aza. We played 9 players with less than 50 games under their belt to BL 5. I know that is not the ball game, but BL did look stronger and faster than us.
                    Lohmann, Fletcher, Reveille and Morris, who was the 5th ? At the beginning of the season, Brisbane's list included 21 players with fewer than 50, 'Dogs 22. Brisbane players broke tackles at will (no stats on that) so injuries may have forced selection of physically weaker players.

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                    • D Mitchell
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2023
                      • 654

                      #370
                      Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

                      Keath, Jones, O'Donnell are all intercept defenders. Hipwell and Daniher scored goals outbodying them. One for Sam Power and Dom Milesi, do we cop the odd loss or do we look for a body-on-body defender, like Melbourne's May who is good at both ? ESPN stats have a column headed 1%, which I assume means 1 per centers i e second efforts, shepherds, work off the ball etc. Our best by a street was Jones on 9, next O'Donnell on 6, Bont on 5. I came away from the game assessing O'Donnell as having had a good game but Ugle-Hagan very poor after quarter time. Their stats are identical save that of their mutual 8 disposals, O'Donnell's included an extra handball and 1 fewer kick. Under 1 % it's 6 and 1. Therein lies a story.

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                      • D Mitchell
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2023
                        • 654

                        #371
                        Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        Made me realise how big a loss Dunks was and how ripped off we got because the players can choose clubs.
                        Bolded bit. Couldn't agree more.

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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3891

                          #372
                          Re: Bulldogs V Lions - Round 13, 7/6/24 Marvel Stadium 7:40PM AEST

                          Originally posted by D Mitchell
                          Keath, Jones, O'Donnell are all intercept defenders. Hipwell and Daniher scored goals outbodying them. One for Sam Power and Dom Milesi, do we cop the odd loss or do we look for a body-on-body defender, like Melbourne's May who is good at both ? ESPN stats have a column headed 1%, which I assume means 1 per centers i e second efforts, shepherds, work off the ball etc. Our best by a street was Jones on 9, next O'Donnell on 6, Bont on 5. I came away from the game assessing O'Donnell as having had a good game but Ugle-Hagan very poor after quarter time. Their stats are identical save that of their mutual 8 disposals, O'Donnell's included an extra handball and 1 fewer kick. Under 1 % it's 6 and 1. Therein lies a story.
                          Work rate. JUH when he is on is amazing, but that work rate and effort sometimes isn't there.

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