INs and Outs for Semi v Swans

[Mantis]

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Wight won't even get near the ball to use his height to spoil on a strong forward. He will be out-bodied everytime.

Wight is not the only option. I really don't care if we play Everitt or Tiller in this role. I just believe we need to play another tallish defender.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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I can't believe how short our memories are.

Wight is a long way from being an AFL player, do we need to drag out the spiteful posts from earlier this year?

Wight's form at Willi has been nothing short of dreadful, and now he's going to come in and stich up a dual Brownlow medalist?

The facts are our depth is woeful - all the early season carry-on was mostly about kids who one day might be good, but all are some way off being ready for AFL.

We may not like it, but we are probably stuck with the 22 who played last week - even if a few don't deserve to keep their spots.

Does anyone remember Ward's last senior game?

[The Pie Man]

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OK it settled then Wight is our saviour. Already beaten Geelong before we played Sydney. Bugger fixing our midfield problems from last week or our lack of a forward line.

Yeah I did mean to write something like 'as a lead up to a potential prelim match up with..' but neglected to so, my bad. He could play on Goodes.....well he could....maybe not well, but it ...could happen....

Midfield - play Skipper. Hudson isn't fit...or in a trough..or something - play Minson as number 1 ruck, have him compete like he always does, and let Skip play the almost permanent forward. If we were playing someone to fill the opposition forward hole, Will (in the absence of Scott Wynd) would be better than Daniel Cross at it.

Drop Ray/Eagleton for someone like Ward and you exit plenty of frustrating mistakes, and provide that exuberant spark of youth. Imagine how excited Cal would be to find out he's playing a semi, it would be infectious.

[Mantis]

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I think you have to rely on the main group of players that got us 3rd spot in the first place. I think its more execution issue more than a quality issue. The midfielder simply have to play better and more like they have been. One or two changes at the most but they aren't wholesale changes.

Already suggested if Hudson fitness means Minson has to ruck more then you might as well bring in a tall forward like Skipper.

Bringing Wight into the side isn't going to make a difference between winning and losing. He is more likely take the place of someone that could influence the midfield or forward lines.

We do.

Have a look at who were our 3 best players in the first 2/3 of the season. Cooney, Aker and Murphy were all on fire and cutting the oppostion apart. We also had Hudson being very influential in the ruck. We need these 4 to find some form and quickly.

As far as the Wight move is concerned (or whoever) I think one of the following have to make way, either Ray, Eagleton or Higgins. Anyone of these could perform well enough to make a difference, but how many chances do we give them?

[1eyedog]

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We do.

Have a look at who were our 3 best players in the first 2/3 of the season. Cooney, Aker and Murphy were all on fire and cutting the oppostion apart. We also had Hudson being very influential in the ruck. We need these 4 to find some form and quickly.

As far as the Wight move is concerned (or whoever) I think one of the following have to make way, either Ray, Eagleton or Higgins. Anyone of these could perform well enough to make a difference, but how many chances do we give them?

He has to go IMO

[Missing Dog]

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If you look at the whole season including the final, the last North match and the Hawthorn match were the only two games where we weren't leading during the match but were chasing the opposition. All the other games that we lost, we were in a winning postion but got beaten in the last quarter.

Geelong - lead by up to two goals at one stage
Carlton - leading at three quarter time and then lost
Lions - threw the game away with bad kicking in the first half -lost by 11 points
Adelaide - pretty even match, lost by 9 points with a couple of dodgy goals and frees.

The North match they jumped us and we played catch up, got to withing 14 points at one stage.

Really the only game that we looked bad the whole match was the Hawks final, yes one of the most important matches of the year.

We do have the talent, and we are down a couple of KPP's, but to my way of thinking every team has a bad day at the office, and Friday was a shocker, however, we have had a pretty good season overall and must bounce back this week.

We have beaten the Swans twice this year and that will give us some confidence. They don't have a big forward line other than bustling Barry, and Lake will go straight to him. Depending on how some of the boys play today at Willy, there may be very few changes for next week. They do have a good ruck combination and can stretch us when they rest them.

Without being too emotional about it and thinking straight, what are your IN's and Outs.

Thats overlerly optimistic:

First match at home against Adelaide, they led by nearly 5 goals at times, and by about 3 or 4 with 5 minutes to play. Missed after the siren
Richmond draw..
StKilda first game killed us in the first half, as did Essendon when McVeigh did his hammy
Collingwood lead for much of the game and missed 2 easy goals when 21 points up and Rocca did his leg when they were on a roll
First match against Swans they kicked themselves out of it in the first half.
True these were evened out in the past 8 weeks where we could have won but didn't. But thats happening at the wrong end of the season
The Swans will have Hall whos getting his head right, O'Laughlin who seems to bag 4 or 5 against us, and Goodes who didn't play last time. It aint gonna be easy...

[Mantis]

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The Swans will have Hall whos getting his head right, O'Laughlin who seems to bag 4 or 5 against us, and Goodes who didn't play last time. It aint gonna be easy...

Im pretty sure he has been ruled out.

And if I have learnt anything today it's that those forwards will only be effective if our midfield doesn't fire.

[Scorlibo]

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The Swans will have Hall whos getting his head right

Not a chance of that happening, he seems to have got worse to me, but yes, he is still a dangerous player who played well against the Roos.

[Bornadog]

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Thats overlerly optimistic:

First match at home against Adelaide, they led by nearly 5 goals at times, and by about 3 or 4 with 5 minutes to play. Missed after the siren
Richmond draw..
StKilda first game killed us in the first half, as did Essendon when McVeigh did his hammy
Collingwood lead for much of the game and missed 2 easy goals when 21 points up and Rocca did his leg when they were on a roll
First match against Swans they kicked themselves out of it in the first half.
True these were evened out in the past 8 weeks where we could have won but didn't. But thats happening at the wrong end of the season
The Swans will have Hall whos getting his head right, O'Laughlin who seems to bag 4 or 5 against us, and Goodes who didn't play last time. It aint gonna be easy...

We still won those games.

[Bulldog Revolution]

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Wight's form at Willi has been nothing short of dreadful, and now he's going to come in and stich up a dual Brownlow medalist?

Who are you suggesting we play on Goodes if he goes forward Sockeye?

Who do you see as in the better form of Wight, Everitt and Tiller?

I dont think its a question of expecting them to be anything that they are not, but we dont have many options and we do need one of them in the team

[Mantis]

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On watching training today and my gut feel I think they will make one change max., that player being Addison in. Probably drop one of the soft target's like Ray, Harbrow or Callan.

I don't think the match committee will take a risk with there selections by adding in some much needed height in defence, because if it fails they will look silly.

[Go_Dogs]

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Did Tiller train today?

I'd be loathe to risk Addison if he isn't ready, but would sure love his hardness against the Swans.

[Mantis]

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Did Tiller train today?

I'd be loathe to risk Addison if he isn't ready, but would sure love his hardness against the Swans.

No, only player added to squad was Addison.

[LostDoggy]

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Who are you suggesting we play on Goodes if he goes forward Sockeye?

Who do you see as in the better form of Wight, Everitt and Tiller?

I dont think its a question of expecting them to be anything that they are not, but we dont have many options and we do need one of them in the team

Morris or Hargrave. If either of them can't handle Goodes then any of the 3 mentioned won't either.

[Sedat]

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Morris or Hargrave. If either of them can't handle Goodes then any of the 3 mentioned won't either.

Franklin is on another plane to everyone else at the moment. He's 6 ft 5, runs like the wind, has cat-like recovery when it hits the deck and can now clunk them in a marking contest. None of Hall, Goodes (in his current state) or Richards (if he drifts forward) possess all of these tools. We have to back Lake, Hargy and Morris in to do the job, and more importantly, we have to back our midfielders to do the job they did not do on Friday night.