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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11132

    #16
    Re: Simple: YES or NO

    We rate ourselves higher internally than the rest of the footy community rates us. Most had us a 50-50 proposition at best at the start of the year, so we are playing to those expectations.

    We are about 1 win short of where I expected us to be, but at 3-5 we have been very good under duress to get to parity at the break.
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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11830

      #17
      Re: Simple: YES or NO

      I'd say no but not because we're better than this. It's because being 7-7 with a pretty tough run home means we miss finals most likely. So may as well roll the dice.
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      • Jeanette54
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2009
        • 1241

        #18
        Re: Simple: YES or NO

        I thought I should have answered that I am not satisfied with the 7-7 result at this stage of the season, but it is not quite that simple.

        I feel we have made some real progress with several players, sometimes forced selections because of injuries. Add to that, no team (Swans excepted) have displayed an even performance level thus far through the season. And quite honestly, we severely tested the swans, and probably should have won, only injuries cruelling our day.

        We also weathered the storm of the pressure placed on Bevo by the media, and that could only be answered by our on-ground performance. I feel we have learnt from this and emerged stronger as a club.

        One big thing for the club would be a show of faith in our future, via the re-signing of Bailey Smith and Tim English. I get they want the best deals they can get, but signing would show some confidence in our potential for a successful future for both themselves and the club. Get that done and 7-7 doesn't seem all that much of a detrimental start.
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        but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15321

          #19
          Re: Simple: YES or NO

          I'm firmly in the 'NO' category.

          We are perfectly good enough to be at least 9-5 with the team we have.

          Bevo said we would be the most prepared we would ever be for a Rd 1 clash in his tenure... and whilst there were mitigating circumstances this clearly wasn't the case given our poor start.

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          • Uninformed
            Draftee
            • Jan 2023
            • 790

            #20
            Re: Simple: YES or NO

            We are where we are.

            And I like what I am seeing.

            We are making adjustments and improvements as the season progresses and there is a lot to like in the way our game is developing.

            Apart from the Brisbane game our fitness seems better than most.

            Apart from Baz our injuries have not been horrendous.

            Darcy will just get better.

            Our current midfield is just brilliant and role players are doing well.

            Very optimistic about the rest of the year.

            So for me - 'None of the above'

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 17921

              #21
              Re: Simple: YES or NO

              I saw a ladder based on expected score last night and it has us sitting second (Essendon were bottom 4ish lol). We?re going better than 9th but still incredibly untrustworthy.

              I?m relatively happy compared to prior years. If Buss debuts and shows a bit (and re-signs) I?ll be even happier. There?s plenty to work with over the next 2-3 years.
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              • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 8896

                #22
                Re: Simple: YES or NO

                So, I've voted yes only on the provision I was also privvy to the context of how we've done it this year. I just think we look like we're learning something new, and seemingly processing a lot of it quite quickly too.
                If you'd told me despite the tough schedule, we'd be 50/50 at the bye, still in contention for a spot in the top 4, with the second best % in the league, and all the whilst doing it with some important personnel missing via injury at key times in big game moments,
                I'd be glass half full.

                The GWS and Collingwood wins in particular stand out as games that give me hope for the tough back half of the year. Our list starts to look a lot healthier coming out of the bye with Coffield and Naughton pressing for selection from injury too.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66115

                  #23
                  Re: Simple: YES or NO

                  Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                  So, I've voted yes only on the provision I was also privvy to the context of how we've done it this year. I just think we look like we're learning something new, and seemingly processing a lot of it quite quickly too.
                  If you'd told me despite the tough schedule, we'd be 50/50 at the bye, still in contention for a spot in the top 4, with the second best % in the league, and all the whilst doing it with some important personnel missing via injury at key times in big game moments,
                  I'd be glass half full.

                  The GWS and Collingwood wins in particular stand out as games that give me hope for the tough back half of the year. Our list starts to look a lot healthier coming out of the bye with Coffield and Naughton pressing for selection from injury too.
                  Don't under estimate the Freo win. They were playing for a position in the top 4 and if they won would have been sitting 3rd.

                  I rate the Freo game, the best win this year. We demolished them
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                  • Go_Dogs
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10110

                    #24
                    Re: Simple: YES or NO

                    I’m voting take it, because it’s basically like starting fresh after the bye and knowing what we know now, we should perform better over the second half notwithstanding some of the commentary we have a harder fixture. Maybe, maybe not.

                    When you factor in all the changes, coaching and players within the 22, along with injuries, and that we’ve been up to our eyeballs in most losses (some we’ve played well and others we haven’t) with such a strong %, we’re behind where we should’ve been but performing well enough.

                    I’m expecting we get to 13-14 wins, we were going to need to have a favourable second half and that’s what I’m basing my end of year ranking on.
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                    • kruder
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2011
                      • 3775

                      #25
                      Re: Simple: YES or NO

                      I'm a no, but with a defence as poor as ours and how we lined up in round 1 back there I was probably too optimistic to begin with.

                      Even so I've really enjoyed going to the footy since the Richmond game for mine there is a clear direction forward, fingers crossed Power can sort out a KPD or two in the offseason . If Jones goes down we are 100% cooked.

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                      • The bulldog tragician
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 1972

                        #26
                        Re: Simple: YES or NO

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Don't under estimate the Freo win. They were playing for a position in the top 4 and if they won would have been sitting 3rd.

                        I rate the Freo game, the best win this year. We demolished them
                        Me too. It showed great resilience. We looked mentally and physically shot during the Bris match. I did not expect us to play with so much energy and style.
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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3814

                          #27
                          Re: Simple: YES or NO

                          No-not satisfied

                          Think we have dropped points unnecessarily and we need to put that behind us and develop a ruthless win at all costs mentality and believe - think Collingwood - 54 points down.....nah we an still win this!

                          Having said that. I like what I am seeing. We have made changes both in personnel and in positions. Players like Richards have exploded in new positions. Darcy has grown into an imposing player. Our wings, often maligned and ineffectual since Hunter departed have become strong points again with Williams and Gag's taking up the mantle.

                          We should be in the top 4.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21579

                            #28
                            Re: Simple: YES or NO

                            I went with option three.

                            Maybe I'd have expected one more win, maybe two. At the same time we could have dropped one or both of the GWS and Collingwood games to even things out.

                            It's a tough competition and I think we're doing well to keep ourselves in it given some changes in personnel, injuries and a rejigged playing approach.

                            What's really pleasing is the volume of scoring opportunities our game plan is generating and how well the game plan is shielding our ineptness in key defence outside of Liam Jones.
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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14868

                              #29
                              Re: Simple: YES or NO

                              No. 8-6 I might be 'ok' with it.
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                              • jazzadogs
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 5571

                                #30
                                Re: Simple: YES or NO

                                When you consider that 7-7 could put us 12th (if Melbourne, Gold Coast and Brisbane all win their 14th games this weekend) then really it's not acceptable. But that also shows that it's a very even competition.

                                I had low expectations for the season, so it is probably on par with those, but that's more of a blight on the group than anything.

                                I don't know if we should be MUCH better than this, but I think we have shot ourselves in the foot a few times and will probably rue that in September.

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