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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18959

    #16
    Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

    Lobb back for me.

    I'd have

    Duryea Lobb (Curnow) Coffield
    Freijah Keath (Mckay) Dale


    Good mix of run/height/stoppers.

    I think Lobb is pretty athletic and probably is the best matchup for Curnow and may be able to intercept off him (gulp).

    Let's be honest though, if the mids shit the bed again it you could have Rance and Jakovich down there and it aint gonna matter.

    Bailey Williams to the wing. In the VFL (he was putrid with his efforts last week not on his own).


    Kidding, however my iso cam is on him this week and I like him up the ground and not having to defend. Although, he isn't a classic
    winger.

    We are really suffering without a decent winger. Lachie Hunter come back!

    Forwards, hmm.

    Khamis forward.

    It's going to have to Marra and Darcy with Bont and English rotating through for periods.

    I'd have Buku down there to try and get a height mismatch with one of their shorter backs.

    Buku was ok last week down back, but I don't trust him.

    TLDR

    We have to reverse everything we did wrong last week. Mids have to not get spanked on the outside. Forwards need to pressure ball and lock it in.

    I'd also like to see some man on man at times if we are getting chipped through again.

    I've got a really bad feeling about this game with the Blues coming off that unexpected loss.

    P.S. I hope Weightman is back, however groins hmmm. I wouldn't rush him.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7363

      #17
      Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

      Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
      I remember a story that his old man tagged a young Ben Cousins and broke him- was apparently in tears after the game. Might just be urban legend, not sure.
      Not urban legend. Cousins would have been 18/19 and was in his first season. Pretty sure that game was at the WACA.

      Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
      Anyway, I want to see Tom employ the same physical and psychological warfare on Cripps. Make him cry.
      You think anyone can do ANYTHING to Cripps that he hasn't seen/heard? He's been playing senior footy (in the bush) since he was 15 and before he grew 20cm in one summer. He's the 200-game playing captain of an AFL club.

      He isn't great in transition though and despite being slow will try to take on the oppo with ball in hand...so rather than revert to playing games with him, why not just:
      - Whoever gets him, push forward hard and make him defend.
      - When he tries to take on the tackler...bring him to the ground.

      I genuinely don't think we need to try and be too clever/change positions etc.

      Just do the simple things better than Carlton this week and 'lean in' to our strengths in the mids and up forward.
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18959

        #18
        Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

        Originally posted by mjp
        Not urban legend. Cousins would have been 18/19 and was in his first season. Pretty sure that game was at the WACA.


        You think anyone can do ANYTHING to Cripps that he hasn't seen/heard? He's been playing senior footy (in the bush) since he was 15 and before he grew 20cm in one summer. He's the 200-game playing captain of an AFL club.

        He isn't great in transition though and despite being slow will try to take on the oppo with ball in hand...so rather than revert to playing games with him, why not just:
        - Whoever gets him, push forward hard and make him defend.
        - When he tries to take on the tackler...bring him to the ground.

        I genuinely don't think we need to try and be too clever/change positions etc.

        Just do the simple things better than Carlton this week and 'lean in' to our strengths in the mids and up forward.
        Would you consider sweating on the second guy? Like Cripps is going to get it out, he's hard to stop. Crowd him but don't be bees to honey (i saw this on the weekend 3 guys sucked into Rozee i think it was) and then sweat on the release guy.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13235

          #19
          Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

          We're cooked and the real positive at Carlton is their ability to move the ball so quickly. Feeling a Port-like early capitulation coming on if I'm honest.

          Don't mind trying Buku on a wing he can't play forward or back so worth trying him everywhere prior to season's end I suppose. We'll probably put him on Curnow.

          Keath on McKay is horrible. If we had one legitimate key defender for McKay and played Lobb as an interceptor Truck on Curnow could work. Keath used to be the interceptor we need but that was more than 5 years ago.

          Curnow will get lots of looks and will view anyone we put on him as sub-par. He could sew up the Coleman this weekend.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • The Adelaide Connection
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2009
            • 2780

            #20
            Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

            Originally posted by mjp
            Not urban legend. Cousins would have been 18/19 and was in his first season. Pretty sure that game was at the WACA.


            You think anyone can do ANYTHING to Cripps that he hasn't seen/heard? He's been playing senior footy (in the bush) since he was 15 and before he grew 20cm in one summer. He's the 200-game playing captain of an AFL club.

            He isn't great in transition though and despite being slow will try to take on the oppo with ball in hand...so rather than revert to playing games with him, why not just:
            - Whoever gets him, push forward hard and make him defend.
            - When he tries to take on the tackler...bring him to the ground.

            I genuinely don't think we need to try and be too clever/change positions etc.

            Just do the simple things better than Carlton this week and 'lean in' to our strengths in the mids and up forward.
            I know mate, I was just being a little facetious. But we do need to give him a tough time- which I agree means sweating on him and getting a tackle on him that sticks.


            Ultimately if we let any midfield have the possessions that Port's did last week in the first quarter we are in for some trouble. I am optimistic- our best is good enough and if we are good enough, long enough we might just be able to limit the damage in the back half enough to get the W.

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            • Angak
              Rookie List
              • Jan 2023
              • 106

              #21
              Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

              Originally posted by jeemak
              The last couple of weeks we've been considerably down in the scoring department, after hitting high twenties/ thirty scoring shots.

              Saying the best way to beat Carlton is by outscoring them is clearly a nuftie thing to say, but it has to be the mentality to score at all costs.
              Interesting to hear Bevo say in the post game presser that our best game of the season was against Freo when we only had two tall forwards. He said that it is something we have to look at and find the right balance.

              Carrying three tall's can really hurt your balance. Let's see how we function this week with Naughton out.

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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7363

                #22
                Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Would you consider sweating on the second guy? Like Cripps is going to get it out, he's hard to stop. Crowd him but don't be bees to honey (i saw this on the weekend 3 guys sucked into Rozee i think it was) and then sweat on the release guy.
                Honestly, I think we should roll out our 'standard' setup. Reiterate that we've been practicing since November and our best is good enough.

                I'm pretty sure sending 2-defenders to 1-attacker (let alone 3) is NEVER part of the plan and that smacks of individuals trying to do it themselves...admirable trait but teams win games.

                Play everyone in their spot - you *MIGHT* change ONE role for a specific match-up - reinforce the basics and get the job done.

                It's not the time for arse plucking and 'new' strategies. Go with what you believe in, be consistent and if we bring effort it will be enough. If you don't believe that, well - head out to dinner/overseas/wherever 'cos fancy tricks wont get it done.
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66688

                  #23
                  Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  Truck on Curnow could work.
                  Another disaster waiting to happen. Curnow plays like Naughton, ie has a great leap which Truck could not possibly match.

                  Curnow has been very poor the last two weeks, but I fear he will be awakening from his slump.
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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18959

                    #24
                    Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

                    Originally posted by mjp
                    Honestly, I think we should roll out our 'standard' setup. Reiterate that we've been practicing since November and our best is good enough.

                    I'm pretty sure sending 2-defenders to 1-attacker (let alone 3) is NEVER part of the plan and that smacks of individuals trying to do it themselves...admirable trait but teams win games.

                    Play everyone in their spot - you *MIGHT* change ONE role for a specific match-up - reinforce the basics and get the job done.

                    It's not the time for arse plucking and 'new' strategies. Go with what you believe in, be consistent and if we bring effort it will be enough. If you don't believe that, well - head out to dinner/overseas/wherever 'cos fancy tricks wont get it done.
                    Yeah agree, don't re-invent the wheel. More refocus on the things that make you good. I think this should be part of it as you said naturally not all getting sucked in creating that outside vacuum.
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • Rocco Jones
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6931

                      #25
                      Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

                      My main concern with Curnow is his speed. We are stuffed anyway if there are too many 1:1s.

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                      • The Adelaide Connection
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2780

                        #26
                        Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

                        Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                        My main concern with Curnow is his speed. We are stuffed anyway if there are too many 1:1s.
                        How's Busslingers speed? The thought of him 1:1 with Curnow sitting under a ball deep inside 50 is terrifying, but maybe he could get a fist in on the move?

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44622

                          #27
                          Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

                          Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                          How's Busslingers speed? The thought of him 1:1 with Curnow sitting under a ball deep inside 50 is terrifying, but maybe he could get a fist in on the move?
                          It's improved a lot this year with the new fitness guy ramping up training being done at a quicker pace but Buss isn't quick off the mark but he's not bad once he gets going.
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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13235

                            #28
                            Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Another disaster waiting to happen. Curnow plays like Naughton, ie has a great leap which Truck could not possibly match.

                            Curnow has been very poor the last two weeks, but I fear he will be awakening from his slump.
                            There is no match up unfortunately.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66688

                              #29
                              Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

                              Originally posted by 1eyedog
                              There is no match up unfortunately.
                              Take your pick:

                              Lobb
                              Keath (if available)
                              Buku
                              Buss
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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13235

                                #30
                                Re: Crisis/Opportunity: Planning for the Blues

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Take your pick:

                                Lobb
                                Keath (if available)
                                Buku
                                Buss
                                Gee whiz
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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