Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

[mjp]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

I saw my wife take an overhead mark in a dress and stilettos 10m out from goal in a muck around game that had a few Swannies playing and she nailed it.

If you can't kick a goal from 10m out then you really shouldn't be playing AFL unless you're Dale Morris.

Your wife sounds like a real talent...not sure I could kick straight wearing stilettos but to be fair I haven't tried.

Then again, I would probably be a very good bet to kick a goal from where Lachie missed from - I would conservatively kick a footy 500x per week and I'm pretty good. But not sure my kicking skills (or your wife's) would be too helpful since I wouldn't actually get the ball in a game of AFL footy.

He was heart and soul against Carlton. A minute or so after missing the goal that has everyone so "this bloke just can't play" he pushed back and took an intercept mark. He wasn't wallowing or worrying...he was in the moment and playing the game.

Better players than him have missed easier goals...no point worrying about what he can't do. We need to bring the heat inside forward 50m to protect our inexperienced defence. He's a part of that.

[Bornadog]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

Your wife sounds like a real talent...not sure I could kick straight wearing stilettos but to be fair I haven't tried.

Then again, I would probably be a very good bet to kick a goal from where Lachie missed from - I would conservatively kick a footy 500x per week and I'm pretty good. But not sure my kicking skills (or your wife's) would be too helpful since I wouldn't actually get the ball in a game of AFL footy.

He was heart and soul against Carlton. A minute or so after missing the goal that has everyone so "this bloke just can't play" he pushed back and took an intercept mark. He wasn't wallowing or worrying...he was in the moment and playing the game.

Better players than him have missed easier goals...no point worrying about what he can't do. We need to bring the heat inside forward 50m to protect our inexperienced defence. He's a part of that.

I remember a crucial goal in the 3rd quarter against Freo missed by a star of the game, and our captain. Not hard to do when nerves kick in

[The Doctor]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

Your wife sounds like a real talent...not sure I could kick straight wearing stilettos but to be fair I haven't tried.

Then again, I would probably be a very good bet to kick a goal from where Lachie missed from - I would conservatively kick a footy 500x per week and I'm pretty good. But not sure my kicking skills (or your wife's) would be too helpful since I wouldn't actually get the ball in a game of AFL footy.

He was heart and soul against Carlton. A minute or so after missing the goal that has everyone so "this bloke just can't play" he pushed back and took an intercept mark. He wasn't wallowing or worrying...he was in the moment and playing the game.

Better players than him have missed easier goals...no point worrying about what he can't do. We need to bring the heat inside forward 50m to protect our inexperienced defence. He's a part of that.

She's German, they're the best at everything, apparently!

I get the point you are making. I agree he put in. The issue aside from his poor conversion, which is important for forward line players, is that he so rarely produces this kind of performance. He will get another game next week.

[mjp]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

She's German, they're the best at everything, apparently!

Interesting. My family heritage is German but my wife is 100% that she is much better at everything that exists in the world than I am. So the whole 'German' thing doesn't work out my way.

The issue aside from his poor conversion, which is important for forward line players, is that he so rarely produces this kind of performance.

To me - based on the fact he started the year in the side and is regularly given opportunities - the way he played vs Carlton is the way he performs at training during match simulation drills. So I guess to me he showed that:

1/. It's "in" him.
2/. Being in the side is important to him because it was just a heart on sleeve, effort based performance.

I hope he is selected this week (along with VDM, West and Weightman). I think we need HEAT on in forward 50m to protect our backs. I think there can be no compromise on this right now (as our mids are not the greatest group of defensive players and the pressure had better come from somewhere).

[jeemak]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

I remember a crucial goal in the 3rd quarter against Freo missed by a star of the game, and our captain. Not hard to do when nerves kick in

But at least Bont looks super stylish when he leans back and swings his leg outside to inside and sprays them left.

[Happy Days]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

So is he Bont or is he Dahlhaus or is he shit I am so confused

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

Your wife sounds like a real talent...not sure I could kick straight wearing stilettos but to be fair I haven't tried.

Then again, I would probably be a very good bet to kick a goal from where Lachie missed from - I would conservatively kick a footy 500x per week and I'm pretty good. But not sure my kicking skills (or your wife's) would be too helpful since I wouldn't actually get the ball in a game of AFL footy.

He was heart and soul against Carlton. A minute or so after missing the goal that has everyone so "this bloke just can't play" he pushed back and took an intercept mark. He wasn't wallowing or worrying...he was in the moment and playing the game.

Better players than him have missed easier goals...no point worrying about what he can't do. We need to bring the heat inside forward 50m to protect our inexperienced defence. He's a part of that.

Given we kicked 0.7 in he 1st quarter your point is pretty strong. A good game from McNeil. Handy support player capable of deputising as a pressure player shuld one of our other pressure players go down.

[jeemak]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

So is he Bont or is he Dahlhaus or is he shit I am so confused

McNeil vs. Dahl at the same age:

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=8&playerStatus2=I&tid2=8&type=A&pid1=6895&pid2=3556&fid1=O&fid2=O

Not even going to worry about a summary with this comparison. Different positions, Dahl miles ahead.

[hujsh]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

McNeil vs. Dahl at the same age:

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=8&playerStatus2=I&tid2=8&type=A&pid1=6895&pid2=3556&fid1=O&fid2=O

Not even going to worry about a summary with this comparison. Different positions, Dahl miles ahead.

So McNeil is Shithaus?

...I'll see myself out

[macca]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

So McNeil is Shithaus?

...I'll see myself out

I consider he is at kicking.

He must be hitting all the Kpi to be in the team.
I have a feeling we are going to stick with him. Hopefully 50 games, is the bench mark I tend to judge players. Sooner would be better. But if he can convert than he definitely stays.

[Pleather Sole]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

He seems to struggle with the pressure of AFL environment. The crowds, the noise, the nervous energy. He ticks boxes at VFL level and he works hard. When the spotlight is on him in a big game he hasn't learnt the tools of how to execute. Its as simple as working with someone on that transition. Early this year after a brilliant preseason, IIRC he played very well in one game and we were saying he should be delisted every year. So he's more than capable. I assume there is someone at the club with appropriate skills to support him through that?

[Uninformed]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

Interesting. My family heritage is German but my wife is 100% that she is much better at everything that exists in the world than I am. So the whole 'German' thing doesn't work out my way.

Is that because your wife is very, very good? Or because you are very, very.......?

[lemmon]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

He seems to struggle with the pressure of AFL environment. The crowds, the noise, the nervous energy. He ticks boxes at VFL level and he works hard. When the spotlight is on him in a big game he hasn't learnt the tools of how to execute. Its as simple as working with someone on that transition. Early this year after a brilliant preseason, IIRC he played very well in one game and we were saying he should be delisted every year. So he's more than capable. I assume there is someone at the club with appropriate skills to support him through that?

It's probably a symptom of knowing that he's playing for his career as well. It must be difficult executing your skills knowing you're a poor game or two from being out of the side and probably off the list.

[Critter]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

The more I see of McNeil, the more I appreciate what he is bringing to the improvement in the effectiveness of our forward line.

To me, Weightman and West have been major factors in the improved performance of the forward line. Their hard running and tackling enables us to maintain possession for longer periods.

Additionally though, I have also noticed Mc Neil increasingly get himself to dangerous positions, close to goal, at very much the right time - often one out. I think he is developing forward craft. His physicality is improving - enabling him to hold his own against his opponent - he has speed and if he can remove the yips from his kicking, he might even evolve into that mythical creature - a nipsy.

[mjp]

Re: Forget the missed goal, vs Carlton McNeil was Heart and Soul

... that mythical creature - a nipsy.

Dare I ask??