After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

[Grantysghost]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

Yeah nah, not for me. We need JOD and Jones back desperately.

Would prefer Buss to be getting these opportunities.

What's the reason for JOD love but not Buku chef?

I think the latter has shown far more of late.

I reckon JOD has been pretty ordinary this season.

[chef]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

What's the reason for JOD love but not Buku chef?

I think the latter has shown far more of late.

I reckon JOD has been pretty ordinary this season.

I think JOD looks like a decent KPD, has good size, foot skills and natural ability.

Buku looks pretty lost out there and he's more an athlete than a footballer.

[Grantysghost]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

I think JOD looks like a decent KPD, has good size, foot skills and natural ability.

Buku looks pretty lost out there and he's more an athlete than a footballer.

Re looking lost, he has certainly improved in that area from what I have seen. Seems like a really coachable player.

I understand the reservations though!

[azabob]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

We all universally thought Jamarra was BOG. He had 13 score involvements.

Guess who else had 13 score involvements? Curnow.

Marra 13
Curnow 13

Take out their actual scores and Curnow has only three and Marra has six.

Curnow also played 7% more gametime than Marra.

[mjp]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

Fascinating discussion as to whether Buku did well or not.

Buku was awesome.

Take the stoppage goal away and the free-kick that he received away (the one on the 50 that was NOT holding) and he's kicked 1.

Could he have kicked a couple of others? Maybe, maybe not. AFLXSCORE has them as CARL 86 from expected 91.7...so basically "they" should have kicked one more than they did...

As an aside, Bailey Dale was clearly BOG. Sorry.


Sometimes you just gotta watch and give credit where it's due. I didn't think he could do it...he did it. Celebrate the performance.

[Bornadog]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

Before the game, I was more worried about Buku than Lobb playing on McKay, but Buku really surprised me. You have to consider the way Carlton play, they move the ball very quickly from back to forward 50, which gave both Charlie and Mckay plenty of opportunities, in fact they had 47 inside 50s, where the whole forward line was practically empty.

This gave Charlie a big chance to score, but Buku taking 7 marks as did Lobb, saved many goals. Yeah Charlie missed plenty, but he was having shots from 50 plus metres, on the run, instead of looking for someone to pass to. I thought many of his shots were unrealistic attempts.

Don't forget Charlie is an experienced FF who has taken out a few Coleman medals. He kicked 81 goals last year and 64 the year before, so he is no slouch.

Congrats to Buku for a great effort on Saturday. However, I don't think he is the long term CHB, I see him as our 3rd tall.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

MJP going into bat for the underdogs.

I'm waiting for the VDM thread!

[DOG GOD]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

Hmm. Still not convinced. Buku is ok when there?s bodies around him. Might?ve been a different story if buku was 1:1 with curnow in the goalsquare. I?d imagine Curnow would?ve just pushed Buku aside and taken the mark.

[hujsh]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

Hmm. Still not convinced. Buku is ok when there?s bodies around him. Might?ve been a different story if buku was 1:1 with curnow in the goalsquare. I?d imagine Curnow would?ve just pushed Buku aside and taken the mark.

Am I misremembering or were there not a few contests like that where Buku did alright. Maybe not literally in the goalsquare but somewhere in F50?

[Bornadog]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

Am I misremembering or were there not a few contests like that where Buku did alright. Maybe not literally in the goalsquare but somewhere in F50?

Yes most of the contests were 1:1

[soupman]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

Hmm. Still not convinced. Buku is ok when there?s bodies around him. Might?ve been a different story if buku was 1:1 with curnow in the goalsquare. I?d imagine Curnow would?ve just pushed Buku aside and taken the mark.

Also that's an unfair task. There aren't many defenders in the league who would beat Curnow in a pure one-on-one like that, even without the umpires assistance.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

Buku is young and inexperienced but there is something there.

I'd focus on understanding what Coffield brings to the table in that defence. Nothing against the kid as I know he has had rotten luck with injury, but how he was picked before Naughts is criminal.

[Before I Die]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

A little bit of thread, but?.
It was
Pointed out to me by a Carlton supporter that Curnow didn?t miss that goal from the goal square, it was touched by a dogs defender which deflected it into the post. It would have been a point anyway due to the touch. I had a look and he was right. Clearly touched by a diving Duryea.
Now, back on topic ?

[jeemak]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

A little bit of thread, but?.
It was
Pointed out to me by a Carlton supporter that Curnow didn?t miss that goal from the goal square, it was touched by a dogs defender which deflected it into the post. It would have been a point anyway due to the touch. I had a look and he was right. Clearly touched by a diving Duryea.
Now, back on topic ?

Just meaningless details BID. Accurate, and entirely appropriate to call out, but meaningless when building a narrative of why Carlton are awesome and were off their food.

Nobody's really worried about what happens after a goal is kicked, or how another centre bounce contest impacts the complexion of a game after a goal. Maybe we kick one more from centre bounces than the four we already kicked if Curnow kicked one of his later attempts, maybe Carlton get on a roll and make it a less comfortable contest.

Ifs and buts, candy and nuts, merry Christmases and all that.

As for Buku, he was fine. He hurt us early with a floater wide in the first quarter that ended with Williams being done, but equally Bramble could have cleared that with a mongrel kick down the line to a contest instead of going hands. Outside of that he was really solid and took a step forward against a very well credentialed opponent.

Having just turned 24 and passing the twenty game mark this season, it's time for him to be a bit more consistent and reliable - with Saturday being a good indication he can. Hopefully it gives him a lot of confidence.

As an aside, I don't have any issues with him being played as a forward (forward/ ruck) last year. It wasn't until October that we knew Naughton would be with us for another eight years, nor did we know for sure Marra would be with us for another two until a couple of months ago (and we still don't know about English). Having Khamis able to play forward and relieve in the ruck if needed was decent hedging or forward planning by the football department.

[azabob]

Re: After the Carlton game, I'm team Buku.

Buku Khamis on RSN radio this morning - note I will post in a couple of different threads.

https://omny.fm/shows/breakfast-with-harf/buku-khamis-said-the-bulldogs-are-still-searching