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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18898

    #46
    Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

    Originally posted by Bullies
    I think he is basing it on the fact that we are very good at Marvel and he would rather play us in the open of Ballarat with a howling wind blowing.
    Absolutely - if you had the choice of playing us anywhere but Marvel that would be the preference.

    If we finish 6th and Hawks 7th we should lobby for a home Marvel final. I don't want to play it at their home ground.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 11020

      #47
      Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

      Originally posted by Bullies
      I think he is basing it on the fact that we are very good at Marvel and he would rather play us in the open spaces of Ballarat with a howling wind blowing than at Marvel.
      Are we though? We are 8 from 12 at Marvel this season, and 3 of those wins were gimmes against North x2 and West Coast. It's only marginally better than our overall winning record for the year (as of course it should be at home).

      We beat them in conditions that were nothing like Marvel earlier in the season.

      Of course in an ideal world we would be playing this game at Marvel but I don't think there is any significant home ground advantage given up by playing at a ground we are much more familiar with than they are.

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 11020

        #48
        Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        Absolutely - if you had the choice of playing us anywhere but Marvel that would be the preference.

        If we finish 6th and Hawks 7th we should lobby for a home Marvel final. I don't want to play it at their home ground.
        If we were playing GWS and their travelling horde of 10 supporters the game would probably still be at the MCG.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66117

          #49
          Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
          How many times have they played us there? Once?

          I don't really disagree but wondering what he's basing that comment on. I can only recall 1 game against them at Ballarat.
          We have played them twice at Ballarat, winning one and as you recall losing by 5 points last year after 3 injuries including Bruce ACL, Keath Concussion.

          Can't wait for Sunday
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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11020

            #50
            Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

            Originally posted by bornadog
            We have played them twice at Ballarat, winning one and as you recall losing by 5 points last year after 3 injuries including Bruce ACL, Keath Concussion.

            Can't wait for Sunday
            When did we beat them at Ballarat? I can't see any record of this game - we've only played them there once as far as I can tell.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11830

              #51
              Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

              Originally posted by Axe Man
              Are we though? We are 8 from 12 at Marvel this season, and 3 of those wins were gimmes against North x2 and West Coast. It's only marginally better than our overall winning record for the year (as of course it should be at home).

              We beat them in conditions that were nothing like Marvel earlier in the season.

              Of course in an ideal world we would be playing this game at Marvel but I don't think there is any significant home ground advantage given up by playing at a ground we are much more familiar with than they are.
              There's no real home advantage to playing at Marvel aside from the travel for interstate teams. Everyone plays there pretty often.

              Ballarat is the closest thing we have to a home ground IMO
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • bulldogsthru&thru
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • May 2011
                • 7708

                #52
                Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

                Originally posted by bornadog
                We have played them twice at Ballarat, winning one and as you recall losing by 5 points last year after 3 injuries including Bruce ACL, Keath Concussion.

                Can't wait for Sunday
                Oh wow BRUCE was playing for us last year!!?? Time has flown.

                I also can't see any record of us playing them there before last year's game.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18898

                  #53
                  Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  There's no real home advantage to playing at Marvel aside from the travel for interstate teams. Everyone plays there pretty often.

                  Ballarat is the closest thing we have to a home ground IMO
                  I think there is. We love it there, the speed under the roof and lack of annoying goal kick destroying wind helps us.

                  I have no evidence to back this up. So no Narcs
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Flamethrower
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1355

                    #54
                    Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

                    It would have made more sense to play last week's game at Ballarat, and round 24 at Marvel given the importance of the game against the Giants. I disagree with the Giants' captain though - they play Marvel as well as we do as it suits their game style.

                    Early forecast for Sunday is for northerly 30 km/h winds with occasional showers - hardly makes for clean, accurate and efficient football and will put a lot of pressure on our already poor goal kicking accuracy. Giants seem to be winning a lot of games due to more accurate goal kicking (eg 13.4 to 8.16 v Lions). I suppose we can only hope the conditions make it impossible to kick goals with such accuracy and they are dragged down to our level.

                    Interesting that Hawthorn's must win game against North is also at their 2nd home in Launceston - Hawk games down there tend to be a lot closer than when they play at the MCG. If Sheezel is back and North actually compete it may not be the walkover that Hawthorn fans are expecting.
                    Footscray member since 1980.

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18898

                      #55
                      Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      When did we beat them at Ballarat? I can't see any record of this game - we've only played them there once as far as I can tell.
                      Yes that was the first time last year.

                      My guess is bad is looking at the GWS stats and seeing the GWS v GC game at Eureka during Covid.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66117

                        #56
                        Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

                        Originally posted by Axe Man
                        When did we beat them at Ballarat? I can't see any record of this game - we've only played them there once as far as I can tell.
                        ok, re checked. I looked at AFL tables and it showed GWS playing twice at Ballarat. Now looking into it further, GWS played GC there in 2021, which must have been during Covid.

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        Yes that was the first time last year.

                        My guess is bad is looking at the GWS stats and seeing the GWS v GC game at Eureka during Covid.
                        yes. Who would have thought they played GC there.
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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13188

                          #57
                          Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

                          All the games that matter these finals will be played at an open air stadium so I'm open to playing at as many open air stadiums as possible.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6924

                            #58
                            Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

                            Toby Greene loves to extract any possible advantage he can get and I think he was playing mind games when answering the question. He or not the notion is correct is purely incidental. I think he was answering from a place of trying to get into our heads and/or boost GWS confidence rather than a pure analysis of what's correct.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66117

                              #59
                              Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              Toby Greene loves to extract any possible advantage he can get and I think he was playing mind games when answering the question. He or not the notion is correct is purely incidental. I think he was answering from a place of trying to get into our heads and/or boost GWS confidence rather than a pure analysis of what's correct.
                              I hope we smash these plastic shits - can't stand this failed venture supported by two men and a dog.

                              Greene is still the biggest grub in the AFL and I don't care how talented he is.

                              Go Dogs!!!

                              PS: We will get more people at Ballarat than they do at that 30,000 stadium where they struggle to get 8k showing up.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • Plums
                                Rookie List
                                • Aug 2024
                                • 49

                                #60
                                Re: Why are we playing at Ballarat for the final game?

                                The venue and the supporter experience there has always been really good, the AFL just needs to fixture it in a way to avoid it being a make or break game as the 10k capacity and the travel for supporters makes it hard to attend.

                                The suburban feel of the ground is an amazing experience but as the final game of the year and having to travel, im not so sure about the venue then.

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