Players that have sucked you in?

[southerncross]

There must be a long line of players that the supporters thought were going to be the savior of the club before the actually played and then let us down.

For me five otherwise unknowns (all but one is from SA by the way) spring to mind.

John Georgiades
Hugh Reimers
Sam Phillipou
Stephen Pitt
Paul Gow

Georgiades started in a blaze of glory with a couple of bags of goals before every team put their best defender on him and shut him out of games.
I honestly though he was going to be a 70 goal a season forward but in the end he was allowed to be let go mid season to return back to WA.
I also thought he should have been tried as a defender but that never eventuated. He was a decent mark and an accurate kick but at only 185cm he would have struggled as a key forward.
Has anyone got anything else they can add John Georgiades?

Riemers came to us as part of the Kym Koster trade to the Crows in a complicated deal. In a team crying out for tall defenders (times don't change do they?) a 195cm athletic type that 7 clubs had talked to before the trade and draft period had really piqued my interest. When he arrived at the Dogs he looked the real deal. Skillful and a decent mark but it wasn't long before an injury or two slowed his progress. By the time he made a recovery I think Tony Campbell was holding down the position and after two uneventful years he was not much more than a distant memory.
Has anyone got anything else they can add Hugh Riemers?


Phillipou was drafted by the Dogs two years before he decided to make the move. He was a highly touted key forward and I watched his progress each Monday in the paper to see if he had kicked a few goals or had been mentioned in the best players. After being so eager for two years for him to arrive at the club I was hugely disappointed to see him in an SANFL grand final and he played like a Dog. He was slow and not particularly strong in a contest and to make matters worse he really couldn't even run out quarters. At the 20 min mark, he would really hit the wall and no matter how hard he tried he just couldn't get any fitter
Has anyone got anything else they can add Sam Phillipou?

Stephen Pitt had been with the Pies list before the Dogs drafted him. He was a reluctant starter though he had to choose between being a footballer or a policeman. He can to the Dogs and kicked a bag of goals in a practice match but then left to head back home. I honestly thought we had landed a good one.
Has anyone got anything else they can add Stephen Pitt?

Paul Gow was an aggressive and physical fullback whop arrived at the Dogs with a lot of excitement. He tried to rough up Brereton in his first game during a night series and while he was tall and physical he really wasn't up to it. I think we traded him back to West Coast
Has anyone got anything else they can add anout Paul Gow?

How many players did you hold high hopes for but they never really made it?

[Missing-Dog]

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There must be a long line of players that the supporters thought were going to be the savior of the club before the actually played and then let us down.

For me five otherwise unknowns (all but one is from SA by the way) spring to mind.

John Georgiades
Hugh Reimers
Sam Phillipou
Stephen Pitt
Paul Gow


How many players did you hold high hopes for but they never really made it?

Wow - I have so heard of none of these guys. I suppose we can add Aker, Doogs, Griff, Cooney (unless of course they actually save us). Griff is only on the list because he actually looks like he can save us.

[LostDoggy]

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I have to confess I thought Jade Rawlings was going to be great. Then there was that 7 goal haul against West Coast in his first game for us. The rest, as they say, is history.

[Bornadog]

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Wow - I have so heard of none of these guys. I suppose we can add Aker, Doogs, Griff, Cooney (unless of course they actually save us). Griff is only on the list because he actually looks like he can save us.

Out of the players you mention only Doogs has to prove himself, Cooney and Griffen are guns and Aker has been there done that. If Aker plays at half his ability it will have been a great decision to get him over.

[Bornadog]

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I remember being at Optus oval to watch John Georgiades in his first game against carlton, where he kicked 8 goals and thought WOW, who is this guy he is going to be a sensation. After that game he couldn't basically get a kick and was dropped to the reserves never to be seen again.

One player that was really dissapointing in the last few years was Rawlings. Like Georgiades, kicked 7 in his first game but after that didn't really live up to his reputation.

[GVGjr]

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I remember being at Optus oval to watch John Georgiades in his first game against carlton, where he kicked 8 goals and thought WOW, who is this guy he is going to be a sensation. After that game he couldn't basically get a kick and was dropped to the reserves never to be seen again.

One player that was really dissapointing in the last few years was Rawlings. Like Georgiades, kicked 7 in his first game but after that didn't really live up to his reputation.

Georgiades kicked a few in his 2nd game as well didn't he?

[W W Biscuit]

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The orthodoxy is that Georgiades kicked 8 in his first game for the Dogs and was not heard of again. Actually, he booted a couple in a 10 goal loss to Richmond the week after and then kicked five goals in a losing side versus North Melbourne in round 3. I regard this as his best game. A lot of his goals in the Carlton game came very cheaply, and he seemed to be 'sans opponent' for most of it.

Georgiades had two main problems - he had even less of a right foot than Nathan Eagleton or even Scotty Lucas. And, worst of all, he was pretty darn slow. With no skills on his non-preferred side and a turning circle that covered three postcodes, VFL/AFL footy was always going to find him out. As Southercross rightly says, opponents worked him out fairly quickly and, unfortunately for us, he was a bit of a one trick pony.

[Bornadog]

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Georgiades kicked a few in his 2nd game as well didn't he?

He may have kicked a couple but I can't remember him kicking another bag.

[BulldogBelle]

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I remember being at Optus oval to watch John Georgiades in his first game against carlton, where he kicked 8 goals and thought WOW, who is this guy he is going to be a sensation. After that game he couldn't basically get a kick and was dropped to the reserves never to be seen again.

Sheesh, I remember that game and was also there - After that game I remember leaving the ground and telling my friends as we were walking out that Georgiadis was the next best thing since sliced bread - wasn't to be, he quickly faded into obscurity.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Good job Southern Cross. I have fairly non existent knowledge of most of the these guys as I was up here in Queensland. The game where Georgiades kicked his bag of 8was shown on tele up here in Queensland and I recall thinking we had found a star!
I also saw Phillipou's first game out of the grand total of 3, in 1995 on tele up here.

As a kid I had fairly high estimations of Brad Hardie and thought he was going to lead us to the promised land...... In hindsight it's fair to say that his red hair and clydesdale sized thighs fooled us all........but Not Micky Mathouse...No sir... Mick was hip to his jive!!!!!

For some reason I also held high hopes for Ilija Grgic and thought for a period of time his broad shoulders might just be strong enought to take us to the top... but like the spelling of his surname something just didn't look right..... I later found out that it was injury not the lack of another vowel in his surname that prevented him from reaching his potential.

Daniel Hagreaves.....where do I start-where do I finish..OK I 'll go first and last........First time I saw him was on some game against Hawks that was shown on TV up here in Queensland and he looked to go alright, thought we might've found someone.
Last time I saw him was at The Western Oval 1996 also against Hawthorn.

I'd moved down to Melbourne briefly that year after finishing Uni the previous year.
It was the game where Darren Pritchard fluffed a sitter running into the open goals to see us draw a game we should've won.
Daniel wasn't playing for us that day though but he did feature in the reserves game prior to the main game kicking something like 2.9 or 2.11....something woeful..and as I watched him slew one out on the full from about 15 out from the pocket towards the end of that Reserves game I'm thinking where did it all go wrong.... he coulda been a contender....

[southerncross]

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For some reason I also held high hopes for Ilija Grgic and thought for a period of time his broad shoulders might just be strong enought to take us to the top... but like the spelling of his surname something just didn't look right..... I later found out that it was injury not the lack of another vowel in his surname that prevented him from reaching his potential.

Daniel Hagreaves.....where do I start-where do I finish..OK I 'll go first and last........First time I saw him was on some game against Hawks that was shown on TV up here in Queensland and he looked to go alright, thought we might've found someone.
Last time I saw him was at The Western Oval 1996 also against Hawthorn.

I'd moved down to Melbourne briefly that year after finishing Uni the previous year.
It was the game where Darren Pritchard fluffed a sitter running into the open goals to see us draw a game we should've won.
Daniel wasn't playing for us that day though but he did feature in the reserves game prior to the main game kicking something like 2.9 or 2.11....something woeful..and as I watched him slew one out on the full from about 15 out from the pocket towards the end of that Reserves game I'm thinking where did it all go wrong.... he coulda been a contender....

I also thought Hargreave might have been good but I didn't hold him in that high of a regard. I remember seeing Grgic holding a few marks up forward one day and thought he might have been going to turn into an excellent player. I didn't mind him at all. It was mainly the interstaters that sucked me in. You would read heaps about them but often that was because of their efforts in a very small pond.

[alwaysadog]

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Good job Southern Cross. I have fairly non existent knowledge of most of the these guys as I was up here in Queensland. The game where Georgiades kicked his bag of 8was shown on tele up here in Queensland and I recall thinking we had found a star!
I also saw Phillipou's first game out of the grand total of 3, in 1995 on tele up here.

As a kid I had fairly high estimations of Brad Hardie and thought he was going to lead us to the promised land...... In hindsight it's fair to say that his red hair and clydesdale sized thighs fooled us all........but Not Micky Mathouse...No sir... Mick was hip to his jive!!!!!

For some reason I also held high hopes for Ilija Grgic and thought for a period of time his broad shoulders might just be strong enought to take us to the top... but like the spelling of his surname something just didn't look right..... I later found out that it was injury not the lack of another vowel in his surname that prevented him from reaching his potential.

Daniel Hagreaves.....where do I start-where do I finish..OK I 'll go first and last........First time I saw him was on some game against Hawks that was shown on TV up here in Queensland and he looked to go alright, thought we might've found someone.
Last time I saw him was at The Western Oval 1996 also against Hawthorn.

I'd moved down to Melbourne briefly that year after finishing Uni the previous year.
It was the game where Darren Pritchard fluffed a sitter running into the open goals to see us draw a game we should've won.
Daniel wasn't playing for us that day though but he did feature in the reserves game prior to the main game kicking something like 2.9 or 2.11....something woeful..and as I watched him slew one out on the full from about 15 out from the pocket towards the end of that Reserves game I'm thinking where did it all go wrong.... he coulda been a contender....

That game against Hawthorn was at Waverley Round 1 and a very wet blustery day and Danny kicked five and made it look easy. Blight did the TV commentary and he was very complementary about the lad. He didn't lack talent, but I suspect he went to a different beat to the rest of the team.

Then I recall him at the WO one preseason game. Afterwards while players were signing autographs and the like, he complete with day pack, and a whole lot of hippy looking young things, sat cross legged in a circle on the oval. I thought Woodstock 2 was about to happen.

[southerncross]

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Then I recall him at the WO one preseason game. Afterwards while players were signing autographs and the like, he complete with day pack, and a whole lot of hippy looking young things, sat cross legged in a circle on the oval. I thought Woodstock 2 was about to happen.

I can also recall him in a pre-season getting into a push and shove with Daniel Southern. It got a bit willing. Hargreave was still playing in the SANFL last year.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Riemers came to us as part of the Kym Koster trade to the Crows in a complicated deal. In a team crying out for tall defenders (times don't change do they?) a 195cm athletic type that 7 clubs had talked to before the trade and draft period had really piqued my interest. When he arrived at the Dogs he looked the real deal. Skillful and a decent mark but it wasn't long before an injury or two slowed his progress. By the time he made a recovery I think Tony Campbell was holding down the position and after two uneventful years he was not much more than a distant memory.
Has anyone got anything else they can add Hugh Riemers?

Reimers was just about the most sought-after recruit in Australia.

He came from the Barossa Valley where his family were winemakers. He was selected by the Crows when he was 17. Training got too hard for him as he didn't yet have his license and he refused to leave the winery. Eventually the Crows gave up on him.

Freo drafted him next, even though they knew they had little chance of getting him to come over. He was a few years older and they hoped he was a bit more mature and ready to give footy a go. He wasn't.

Then we had a bit of a brainwave. Someone within our club had contacts within the Victorian Wine Board so we approached him and said if we can get you from Freo and set you up with the VWB in marketing, will you come? He thought it would be a big help to his (winemaking) career and agreed to come over.

He played 1 pre-season game and looked reasonable. Then he broke his leg pretty badly and although he hung around for a while never really got over it.

[alwaysadog]

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I can also recall him in a pre-season getting into a push and shove with Daniel Southern. It got a bit willing. Hargreave was still playing in the SANFL last year.

Can't believe that the two Daniels would have had much more than a name in common, although they were both alternative life style, but in opposing ways.
The more relaxed style of the SANFL would suit him and allow him to exploit his talent.