Draft camp results

[Bornadog]

2:11 PM Fri 03 October, 2008

REPEAT SPRINTS – 6 x 30 metres
This test involves players running 6 x 30 metres sprints with a 20-second time cycle. For example, if the player runs 30 metres in 4.30 seconds, he then has 15.30 seconds to recover, before starting his next 30-metre sprint.

1 – Ryan Schoenmakers (Norwood, SA – medium forward) – 24.82 seconds
2 – Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 24.97
Matthew DeBoer (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 24.97
4 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 25.10
James Strauss (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 25.10
6 – Ashley Smith – (Dandenong Stingrays, VIC – medium defender) – 25.14
7 – Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 25.44
Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 25.44
9 – Alistair Smith (Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 25.48
10 – Taylor Hunt (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – medium defender) – 25.49
11 – Rory Sloane (Eastern Ranges, VIC – medium defender) – 25.57
12 – Tom Lynch (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 25.67
13 – Chris Yarran (Swan Districts, WA – medium forward) – 25.74

HEIGHT – tallest players at the draft camp

1 – Ayce Cordy (Geelong Falcons, VIC – ruckman) – 201.7cm
2 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 200.9cm
3 – Rhys Stanley (West Adelaide, SA – ruckman) – 200.4cm
4 – Tyrone Vickery (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – ruckman) – 200.0cm
5 – Jordan Roughead (North Ballarat Rebels, VIC – ruckman) – 199.7cm
6 – Bart McCulloch (Tassie Mariners, TAS – ruckman) – 198.9cm
7 – Tom Hill (Northern Knights, VIC – ruckman) – 198.5cm
8 – Jackson Trengove (Calder Cannons, VIC – tall forward) – 196.5cm
9 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 196.0cm
10 – Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 195.8cm

WEIGHT – heaviest players at the draft camp

1 – Matthew Martin (West Adelaide, SA – tall defender) – 99.35kg
2 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 94.30kg
3 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 93.90kg
4 – Jordan Lisle (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – tall forward) – 92.75kg
5 – Micheal Hurley (Northern Knights, VIC – tall defender) – 91.80kg
6 – Jordan Roughead (North Ballarat Rebels, VIC – ruckman) – 91.75kg
7 – Clancee Pearce (Swan Districts, WA – medium defender) – 89.75kg
8 – Tyrone Vickery (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – ruckman) – 88.80kg
Rhys Stanley (West Adelaide, SA – ruckman) – 88.80kg
10 – Jackson Trengove (Calder Cannons, VIC – tall forward) – 88.50kg

AGILITY
This is a slalom-type course where players change directions. The specially-designed circuit, roughly 40 metres in total, is set out in a zig-zag pattern.
1 – Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 7.77 seconds – draft camp record
2 – Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 8.03
3 – James Strauss (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 8.18
4 – Nick Suban (North Ballarat Rebels, VIC – medium midfielder) – 8.25
5 – Ayce Cordy (Geelong Falcons, VIC – ruckman) – 8.27
6 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 8.31
7 – Neville Jetta (Swan Districts, WA – medium forward) – 8.32
Dan Hannebery (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 8.32
9 – Luke Shuey (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 8.34
10 – Liam Jones (Tassie Mariners, TAS – tall forward) – 8.35

THREE-KM TIME TRIAL
This is a straight out three-km time-trial held in racing conditions around the athletics track.
1 – Dan Hannebery (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 10min 17sec
2 – Steele Sidebottom (Murray Bushrangers, VIC – medium defender) – 10.32
3 – Sam McGarry (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – medium defender) – 10.41
4 – Tyson Slattery (West Adelaide, SA – medium defender) – 10.42
5 – Chris Hall (Eagles, SA – small/medium midfielder) – 10.42
6 – Michael Gugliotta (Nightcliff, NT – tall defender) – 10.43
7 – Rory Sloane (Eastern Ranges, VIC – medium defender) – 10.44
8 – Matthew DeBoer (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 10.53
9 – Jarrad Blight (Swan Districts, WA – medium defender) – 10.57
10 – Matthew Broadbent (Eagles, SA – tall defender) – 10.57

STANDING VERTICAL JUMP
This is a stand and jump test, with the best results from the three or four jumps recorded. To record the jump, a vertex machine is used. A player must slap the highest possible slat on this machine for the best jump to be recorded. Each slat is roughly a centimetre apart.

1 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 78cm
2 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 74cm
3 – Tom Swift (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 72cm
Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 72cm
5 – Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 70cm
Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 70cm
7 – Ryan Schoenmakers (Norwood, SA – medium forward) – 69cm
Nick Heyne (Gippsland Power, VIC – medium forward) – 69cm
Bryce Carroll (Western Jets, VIC – medium forward) – 69cm
10 – Michael Gugliotta (Nightcliff, NT – tall defender) – 67cm
Ashley Smith (Dandenong Stingrays, VIC – medium defender) – 67cm
Alistair Smith (Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 67cm

RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP

Winner – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 1.02 metres
This record equalled Brisbane Lion Jared Brennan

20-METRE SPRINT
A straight out 20-metre sprint test, with the best time recorded from three attempts.
1 – Ashley Smith (Dandenong Stingrays, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 2.80 seconds – Just missed out on the record held by Port Adelaide's Danyle Pearce (2.79 sec)
2 – Jack Watts – (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 2.82
3 – Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 2.83
4 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 2.86
5 – Tom Swift (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 2.89
6 – Ryan Schoenmakers (Norwood, SA – medium forward) – 2.90
7 – Nick Heyne (Gippsland Power, VIC – medium forward) – 2.91
Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 2.91
9 – Luke Shuey (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 2.92
Taylor Hunt (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – medium defender) – 2.92
Matthew DeBoer (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 2.92

SHUTTLE RUN (AKA BEEP TEST)
The shuttle run is held on the basketball courts. Players must run 20 metres before hearing a beep. It starts off slowly and builds up rapidly, with players increasing their pace significantly. The beeps get quicker each time the players progress. It is a last man standing test. Each player gets one warning – if they miss one beep – they cannot afford to miss another one, as they will be disqualified from the shuttle run. An average draft camp run is level 13.3. A very good level is 14-plus and 15-plus is rare.

1 – Chris Hall (Eagles, SA – small/medium midfielder) – Level 14.6
2 – Rory Sloane (Eastern Ranges, VIC – medium defender) – 14.5
Steele Sidebottom (Murray Bushrangers, VIC – medium defender) – 14.5
4 – Luke Shuey (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 14.4
5 – Jarrad Blight (Swan Districts, WA – medium defender) – 14.3
Tyson Slattery (West Adelaide, SA – medium defender) – 14.3
7 – Dan Hannebery (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 14.2
Ian Richardson (Claremont, WA – medium forward) – 14.2
9 – Tom Lynch (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 14.1
Tom Swift (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 14.1

[Bornadog]

Re: Draft camp results

Surprised with Beep Test results, no one over 15. Average is 13.3.

[Bornadog]

Re: Draft camp results

Draft camp day two: The beep goes on
By Matt Burgan
12:02 PM Fri 03 October, 2008

HERE are the thoughts of some of the NAB AFL Draft Camp attendees at the Australian Institute of Sport in Canberra – day two …

Thursday, October 2

* 8.15-9am – TAIS appraisal
(Questionnaire)

Zach Sengstock, Sandringham Dragons, VIC
"The TAIS appraisal wasn't too bad. There were multiple questions, where you could answer things like 'always' or 'never'. Some of them were easy and some were tough. One question was: 'Have you ever broken the law?' There were also personality questions which show what type of personality you are."

* 9.15-11.30am – Fitness assessments
(Sprint, agility, vertical jump)

Ashley Smith, Dandenong Stingrays, VIC
"On the vertical jump, I started on my right foot and that's not really my best foot to jump from. I jumped about 20cm lower than off my left foot. Then I jumped about 82cm on my left foot. In the 20-metre sprint, I was hoping to get less than 2.9 seconds – I'd never been under that before. I noticed 'Wattsy' [Jack Watts] had done 2.82 seconds, so I was hoping to beat that. In my first one, I got 2.89 seconds and I was pretty happy with that. Then I put everything into it and got 2.80 seconds. In the agility, I got a pretty average score, although it was better than normal. It's not one of my best events. I had a groin injury for six weeks this season, so my fitness dropped off, so I'm pretty happy overall."

* 11.30am-12.30pm/1.30pm-4.30pm/7-9pm – AFL club informal interviews
(With AFL club coaches, recruiting managers and key officials)

Luke Shuey, Oakleigh Chargers, VIC
"They've all been pretty relaxed. They've asked general questions like, how my season's gone. There has also been a bit of self-assessment. They ask how your tests have gone and they generally revolve how you would go at an AFL club. I've spoken to one club today and five yesterday. They have varied across the board. I've had game simulation questions asked for example. But it's been good."

* 1.30-4.30pm – Fitness assessments
(Height/weight, skinfolds, arm length, handspan)

Lewis Johnston, North Adelaide, SA
"We had those measurements and also had our vertical leap tested. I'd been tested before in the AIS/AFL Academy, so I knew what was coming. I came second in the tall forwards and in the standing vertical jump.

* 1.30-4.30pm – Psychomotor tests
(Reaction time/decision-making/peripheral awareness)

Matthew DeBoer, Claremont, WA
"It was bit different – I'd never done anything like it before. We had a light-up board in the dark and using your backhand you had to see how many lights you could hit in a minute. 'Wattsy' [Jack Watts] had the record. The tests were basically testing how quick you could react to lights. Table tennis was the only real reaction tests I'd done before."

* 5pm – Fitness assessments
(Shuttle run – aka beep test)

Rory Sloane, Eastern Ranges, VIC
"I'd run a couple of beep tests for Eastern and my previous best was [level] 14.2, so to get 14.10 was good. This environment brings out the best in everyone doesn't it? My surfing helps my fitness, so I try to get in the water as often as possible. I told a couple of the recruiters that I would get a 14.8 and then one of them gave me a bit of s---, saying: 'What are you doing, you got more than 14.8?'. I said: 'I promised you something, so I delivered'."

[Rocket Science]

Re: Draft camp results

A little surprised the tallest bloke at camp can't get a gig in the top-ten for the standing vertical jump.

Assume this is likely a (leg) strength issue?

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Draft camp results

A little surprised the tallest bloke at camp can't get a gig in the top-ten for the standing vertical jump.

Assume this is likely a (leg) strength issue?

Height has nothing to with it. Hill or Stack have the biggest vertical leap at the club.

[Rocket Science]

Re: Draft camp results

Ta, on board now...it's a measure of the jump itself, not the height attained.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Draft camp results

A little surprised the tallest bloke at camp can't get a gig in the top-ten for the standing vertical jump.

Assume this is likely a (leg) strength issue?

Ayce was apparently fairly high up for a fair bit of the testing, he might have finished just outside the top ten.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Draft camp results

Does all this testing really make any difference in the eyes of the recruiters?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Draft camp results

Does all this testing really make any difference in the eyes of the recruiters?

Bugger all I bet.
If football was just a beep test or a agile test it would make a difference. I suppose they indicates a players athletic abilities.
These tests don't show if they can kick, handball, mark or get the footy. Nor do they show anything about a players mental state.

We did win the tallest player prize. Whoopeee!

[Scorlibo]

Re: Draft camp results

Nor do they show anything about a players mental state.

Probably the only area which will play a part in the recruiters' minds is how the players come across in the interview.

[dog town]

Re: Draft camp results

The recruiters definetly look at it. Why wouldn't you? It can confirm something you thought about a player or shed light on other areas. You would be silly not to take notice of it.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Draft camp results

The recruiters definetly look at it. Why wouldn't you? It can confirm something you thought about a player or shed light on other areas. You would be silly not to take notice of it.

Yes but as to whether it changes the minds of the recruiters is questionable. All areas tested should be displayed on the football field. Its not like the recruiters don't know that Jack Watts is quick over a short distance. Also, if a player tests well in say the vertical jump but does not show such leap on the field, then what use are the results? That player might have terrible hands and hence doesn't jump in a marking contest a lot etc. You can't read much into it.

[ledge]

Re: Draft camp results

In the end its natural abillity and if you have a football brain, i bet a certain D.Hawkins or D. Millane would have struggled to have got on the bus let alone perform in a draft camp.

[dog town]

Re: Draft camp results

Yes but as to whether it changes the minds of the recruiters is questionable. All areas tested should be displayed on the football field. Its not like the recruiters don't know that Jack Watts is quick over a short distance. Also, if a player tests well in say the vertical jump but does not show such leap on the field, then what use are the results? That player might have terrible hands and hence doesn't jump in a marking contest a lot etc. You can't read much into it.

I can guarantee you it does change recruiters minds from time to time. If it didn't then the whole thing would not exist.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Draft camp results

We did win the tallest player prize. Whoopeee!

We probably won the prize for skinniest player too!