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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66700

    #31
    Re: We have shut up shop

    Originally posted by Scorlibo
    We have 2 spots available at the moment - we have already got Ayce - meaning that there is another required delisting. I think Mal Lynch will be leaving. The taller players will always be favoured with delistments for development and requirement issues. I don't think there will be any rookie elevations but if there are then Mulligan would be the man and Wight may be shown the door.
    Lynch will not be going anywhere. Saw him at the B&F, apparently already started working on his preseason.

    We might rookie Oshea and clear up another spot. Still think they will hang on to Wight and hope he develops, but would be his last chance in 2009 to show something.
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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      #32
      Re: We have shut up shop

      Lynch was being spoken about as a delisting because his attitude last pre-season was terrible.

      It appears he recieved the mother of all Rockets (pun intended) and has pulled his finger out.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66700

        #33
        Re: We have shut up shop

        Originally posted by KT31
        Oshea no good
        Hang on, he is still only 19, played no junior footy. He is a project player.
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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #34
          Re: We have shut up shop

          I am so excited we didn't get a tall dud!!!!

          The culture is changing. Changing I tells you...
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66700

            #35
            Re: Bulldogs Trading Finished

            Originally posted by westdog54
            With West off the vets list and no-one to replace him, does that mean that we are able to take on a 5th rookie? Would we be in a position to take up that option? If so, it essentially gives us the option of putting someone like O'Shea or Lynch on the Rookie list for a year. You'd think only 1 of Mulligan and Shaw would be retained, with Mulligan being the more likely option. Haven't seen enough of White to comment, and Hughes' fate has long been decided.
            How old do you have to be for the Vets list?
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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15445

              #36
              Re: Bulldogs Trading Finished

              Originally posted by Griffen#16
              No idea about his contract status...but considering all the talls on our list I'd be holding onto Wight as insurance.

              Touch wood, but I don't consider it out of the realms of possibility that Williams, Everitt, Grant and Boumann all don't play next year due to injury/form.

              If we wish to play Minson forward again (or perhaps give Skipper a try there) we will have only 1 'full time' ruck in Hudson (who averaged about 40% game time), and as GVGjr alluded to in his ruck stocks thread, given the new boundary rules having 2 'full time' rucks is going to be pretty vital.

              Not saying Wight is a sure thing or the answer to our problems, but I'd rather have him with all his limitations knowing that he can do a job than not having any tall timber in the shed for the scenario all of our kids who we're throwing all our hopes and dreams on, don't come good or get injured or whatever.
              Insurance for what, a hurricane?? Really with Williams out at the end of this year Wight, if capable, should have been playing.

              Maybe one more year, but I would rather we go in under-strength in talls and get rid of Wight than keep him and not play him when he is required... Hope that makes sense.

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10152

                #37
                Re: Bulldogs Trading Finished

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Insurance for what, a hurricane?? Really with Williams out at the end of this year Wight, if capable, should have been playing.

                Maybe one more year, but I would rather we go in under-strength in talls and get rid of Wight than keep him and not play him when he is required... Hope that makes sense.
                And it was just a fluke that we won 10 games at the start of the year with Wight playing the second key defender?

                I know what you're saying, and it does make perfect, logical sense. I just think we need the insurance, given the age of our other talls. Wight will also be another year stronger, bigger and fitter.

                At the end of the day, it is one of those line ball calls, that I don't think will make too much of an impact on our success next year either way.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • westdog54
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6686

                  #38
                  Re: Bulldogs Trading Finished

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  How old do you have to be for the Vets list?
                  Without knowing the exact rule I think its age 30 and ten years on the list.

                  I could be wrong.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #39
                    Re: We have shut up shop

                    Originally posted by 42-C-3
                    I am so excited we didn't get a tall dud!!!!

                    The culture is changing. Changing I tells you...

                    Yep, we just need to work out how to get rid of Skipper and hope that Wight can overcome his dose of duditis.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #40
                      Re: Bulldogs Trading Finished

                      I'm a bit flat with our efforts here. For a while now we hear that we are going to target a key forward to make a difference much like we said the year before that and yet once again we came up short. Granted we had limited options and it was a tight trade period but this has been an ongoing theme with Eade.
                      Just about every year he promises to pull the trigger and chase the right type of player to address our inadequacies but never quite delivers.

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                      • All Bark no Bite

                        #41
                        Re: Bulldogs Trading Finished

                        Non event trading this week was waiting to see this aggressive trading that David Smorgon promised.

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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9876

                          #42
                          Re: Bulldogs Trading Finished

                          Originally posted by All Bark no Bite
                          Non event trading this week was waiting to see this aggressive trading that David Smorgon promised.
                          You can't buy if no one is prepared to sell. I'm reasonably happy with what we did at trade week.

                          In regards to the delisting that has to take place I think that O'Shea will be rookied. He was always going to take a while and I can't see them giving up on him ay such a young age. If Mulligan or Shaw get elevated I really think that Wight could be in trouble. I don't think I have seen either play yet so I'm not sure if they are ready or not.

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                          • MrMahatma
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3964

                            #43
                            Re: Bulldogs Trading Finished

                            Originally posted by All Bark no Bite
                            Non event trading this week was waiting to see this aggressive trading that David Smorgon promised.
                            There's aggressive, and then there's realistic. We probably COULD have got Barry Hall, but we'd have had to give up Higgins, Cooney, Griffen - one of that calibre for him - and that would've been stupid. We were aggressive in so far as we asked the question of every possible player, but nothing materialised.

                            I'm happy we asked, and then weren't stupid with what we offered.

                            The last 2 trading periods have brought more in terms of immediate talent, but this one was OK, getting another 2nd rounder and off loading Ray, who from now on was only going to be a fringe player.

                            Better to walk away without a new tall on the list, than walk away with a dud we paid the earth for.

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                            • G-Mo77
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9876

                              #44
                              Re: Bulldogs Trading Finished

                              Originally posted by G-Mo77
                              In regards to the delisting that has to take place I think that O'Shea will be rookied. He was always going to take a while and I can't see them giving up on him ay such a young age. If Mulligan or Shaw get elevated I really think that Wight could be in trouble. I don't think I have seen either play yet so I'm not sure if they are ready or not.
                              Actually I think no more delsitings need to take place. There are 3 outs and it is on record that our draft ends at pick #32. All players maybe safe unless they have a plan of taking a pick in the PSD or a rooke elevation.

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                              • Bulldog Revolution
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 3925

                                #45
                                Re: We have shut up shop

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Hang on, he is still only 19, played no junior footy. He is a project player.
                                I was wondering how far away from Stephen Gilham OShea is at a similar age?

                                I didn't see Gilham as a kid, but he was delisted after 2-3 seasons with Port and has blossomed in his 2-3rd year at Hawthorn so sometimes it takes time.

                                How does OShea compare to someone like him?

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