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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44711

    #16
    Re: Rookie list targets?

    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
    Gaertner was highly rated last year and not drafted. We asked Rocket why we didn't look at him and his answer was "Scottie thinks he can't play".
    It's not a bad idea to get someone like him as a rookie and see if they can be developed though. It's interesting that Clayton will punt on guys like Williams and even Woods that really hadn't been in the traditional system with early and mid draft selections but he might not consider someone like Gaertner as a rookie.
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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7381

      #17
      Re: Rookie list targets?

      I guess I know why he does it G - it is because he figures that a Gaertner has been given every opportunity to figure it out as he has been involved with development squads etc since age 13, whereas a Williams might have enormous improvement given he has received such little coaching etc.

      I totally disagree by the way. It is a gamble whichever way you go, and to me the player with the strongest footy background - assuming a strong work ethic - should be the target.

      Look at someone like Jayden Post (who wont get picked as early as currently projected imo) - he is 19yo playing against 16-18 yo's and is just beginning to figure it out...and he has been in the program at Western for years...perhaps if he was rookied last year (when he was eligible) we might be in a slightly different position with young tall defenders. But again, my mail is that the club doesn't think he can play.
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44711

        #18
        Re: Rookie list targets?

        Originally posted by mjp
        I guess I know why he does it G - it is because he figures that a Gaertner has been given every opportunity to figure it out as he has been involved with development squads etc since age 13, whereas a Williams might have enormous improvement given he has received such little coaching etc.
        This does appear to be his logic.

        Originally posted by mjp
        I totally disagree by the way. It is a gamble whichever way you go, and to me the player with the strongest footy background - assuming a strong work ethic - should be the target.
        Yes if the work ethic and attitude are right I tend to think the guy with the more traditional football background has a better chance of being a 100 game player.

        Originally posted by mjp
        ty background - assuming a strong work ethic - should be the target.

        Look at someone like Jayden Post (who wont get picked as early as currently projected imo) - he is 19yo playing against 16-18 yo's and is just beginning to figure it out...and he has been in the program at Western for years...perhaps if he was rookied last year (when he was eligible) we might be in a slightly different position with young tall defenders. But again, my mail is that the club doesn't think he can play.
        Yes, Post is a late developer and funnily enough he is probably a vastly better chance of making it now that he would have been 12 months ago. We don't look at enough 19/20 yo in my opinion and Clayton in particular puts a lot of faith in the bottom aged players.
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        • Big Will

          #19
          Re: Rookie list targets?

          The Age reports that Chris Ogle has been rookie listed.

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14979

            #20
            Re: Rookie list targets?

            As we will be taking 5 rookies this year (only 1 veteran), and Shaw, Mulligan and White appear to set to be re-rookied, Ogle is young & developing, I'm hoping we look at a more senior guy for the last rookie spot. I'd be happy with a big, mature bodied backman to cover us at CHB in the highly likely event we find ourselves without one again.
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            • Sockeye Salmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6365

              #21
              Re: Rookie list targets?

              Originally posted by Mofra
              As we will be taking 5 rookies this year (only 1 veteran), and Shaw, Mulligan and White appear to set to be re-rookied, Ogle is young & developing, I'm hoping we look at a more senior guy for the last rookie spot. I'd be happy with a big, mature bodied backman to cover us at CHB in the highly likely event we find ourselves without one again.
              Willi's Scott Meyer

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44711

                #22
                Re: Rookie list targets?

                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                Willi's Scott Meyer
                Wouldn't he be training with us if that was on the cards?
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                • LostDog
                  WOOF Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 426

                  #23
                  Re: Rookie list targets?

                  Originally posted by The Doctor
                  Liam Jones from Tassie might be one to look out for. He is a 194cm key position player who was injured for most of this year. He came from my old club North Hobart. I saw his dad Bob play and he was a big indigenous player who played a few games for the Saints. He tested well at the draft camp in the agility and sprints apparantly.

                  Has any of our Tassie posters got anything on him?
                  Yep gun player, Know Bobby Jones well this kid could be something special
                  Because you cant beat the boys of the BULLDOG breed!!!!!

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                  • Sockeye Salmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6365

                    #24
                    Re: Rookie list targets?

                    Originally posted by LostDog
                    Yep gun player, Know Bobby Jones well this kid could be something special
                    Too young to rookie.

                    If we want him we'll have to use pick 32 on him.

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                    • mighty_west
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3439

                      #25
                      Re: Rookie list targets?

                      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                      Too young to rookie.

                      If we want him we'll have to use pick 32 on him.
                      No chance what so ever, just not good enough IMO, especially for a pick in the 30's.

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                      • The Doctor
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3702

                        #26
                        Re: Rookie list targets?

                        Originally posted by mighty_west
                        No chance what so ever, just not good enough IMO, especially for a pick in the 30's.
                        could you elaborate on this please?
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