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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66096

    Bulldogs Financial Position

    Received the bulldogs magazine last night which included the financial accounts. Looking through the accounts the club is recording an operating profit of $641,242 compared to last years profit of $534,214. On the face of it looks good but!!!!

    * Loans, or facilities from Westpac have increased from $5 million to $13 million. This is a huge loan with $12.42 million utilized and really needs further explanation from the club. According to the financial statements the loan is required to keep the club afloat and has been reported in the balance sheet as a current liability (short term liability).

    Members need to know why such a loan was requested and how will the club pay the loan back. What were the funds used for? Were they used for financing the ongoing operations of the club or to purchase Assets? If they are for ongoing operations, what is going to happen next year?

    Other concerns:

    * Receipts from customers and AFL, down from $30.14 million to $28.86 million (down 4.2%). I thought this would have been up considering the finals, membership upgrades etc.

    * Sponsorship still hasn't been resolved.

    * Stadium income still low and we have to rely on $1.7 million from AFL, plus sell home games interstate.

    * On going problems with the council.

    AGM is set for 18th December and I think we need answers from directors.
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    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14868

    #2
    Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Loans, or facilities from Westpac have increased from $5 million to $13 million. This is a huge loan with $12.42 million utilized and really needs further explanation from the club. According to the financial statements the loan is required to keep the club afloat and has been reported in the balance sheet as a current liability (short term liability).

    Members need to know why such a loan was requested and how will the club pay the loan back. What were the funds used for? Were they used for financing the ongoing operations of the club or to purchase Assets? If they are for ongoing operations, what is going to happen next year?
    Given it's a short term liability, the club must be anticipating the debt be cleared within the next 12 months - is this an extension facility that will be repaid upon receipt of state/federal government funds for the redevelopment?
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • Dry Rot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6432

      #3
      Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

      Originally posted by bornadog

      * Loans, or facilities from Westpac have increased from $5 million to $13 million. This is a huge loan with $12.42 million utilized and really needs further explanation from the club. According to the financial statements the loan is required to keep the club afloat and has been reported in the balance sheet as a current liability (short term liability).
      WTF? We have gone a further $7.4 million into debt? Is it some temporary thing for the redevelopment?

      If they have to renew the facility or roll it over in the next couple of years they'll be in the poo.

      And the interest will basically account for all of our so called 'profit".
      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66096

        #4
        Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

        Originally posted by Dry Rot
        WTF? We have gone a further $7.4 million into debt? Is it some temporary thing for the redevelopment?

        If they have to renew the facility or roll it over in the next couple of years they'll be in the poo.

        And the interest will basically account for all of our so called 'profit".
        No mention of why they increased the borrowings.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

          No wonder we are in debt if we spend 25k on a board room table.

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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14117

            #6
            Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

            I would say its what the government hasnt paid for yet but obviously is coming
            Bring back the biff

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            • Prince Imperial
              Draftee
              • Nov 2007
              • 993

              #7
              Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

              The report states (at Note 14(c)) that the AFL gave a guarantee of $8m to Westpac based on future redevelopment funding agreements so the quicker that funding (Commonwealth, Vic Uni?) eventuates the better. Smorgo gives the League a special thank you in his report in the yearbook.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66096

                #8
                Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

                Bump

                Recently Melbourne's debt reduction target was almost reached and will be wiped out by the year end. Is anyone else still worried about the $12,500,000 owing to Westpac?

                Campbell Rose's next target should be to get rid of debt, or at least reduce it substantially. It is costing the club $500,000 a year in interest alone. I know the Rocket has said we are still behind other clubs with things like, gym equipment, staff in the football department etc.

                With this debt hanging over our heads, more expenditure in the footy department is not going to happen.
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                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

                  The board room table was made by students of Victoria University at no cost to the Club. The boardroom chairs were also donated to the club pro bono.
                  ________
                  LAUNCH BOX
                  Last edited by LostDoggy; 19-03-2011, 01:09 AM.

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                  • Prince Imperial
                    Draftee
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 993

                    #10
                    Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

                    I think $8m of that debt related to the WO redevelopment and with Victoria Uni having moved into the Gent Stand, that part of the debt should be gone.

                    Having said that, in the recent poker machine licence auction, the club paid just over $4m for about 100 machines and that will no doubt mean the debt is again very large. Of course, we would be hoping the revenue from these at Club Leeds and Edgewater (when it opens) will mean we are better off in the long term.

                    At last year's AGM, Campbell Rose stated that we would be adopting Melbourne's Debt Demolition campaign but I'm haven't heard anything further since.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44283

                      #11
                      Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Bump

                      Recently Melbourne's debt reduction target was almost reached and will be wiped out by the year end. Is anyone else still worried about the $12,500,000 owing to Westpac?

                      Campbell Rose's next target should be to get rid of debt, or at least reduce it substantially. It is costing the club $500,000 a year in interest alone. I know the Rocket has said we are still behind other clubs with things like, gym equipment, staff in the football department etc.

                      With this debt hanging over our heads, more expenditure in the footy department is not going to happen.
                      I was listening to some discussions on the radio yesterday about Melbourne's outstanding effort on debt reduction and thought of our own position. We have been good at convincing governments and councils about the need to construct buildings and community based initiatives etc but the hardest thing was always going to be the debt reduction. The modest profits produced by the club won't change anything with regards to the money that is owed.
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66096

                        #12
                        Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

                        Originally posted by Prince Imperial
                        I think $8m of that debt related to the WO redevelopment and with Victoria Uni having moved into the Gent Stand, that part of the debt should be gone.

                        At last year's AGM, Campbell Rose stated that we would be adopting Melbourne's Debt Demolition campaign but I'm haven't heard anything further since.
                        I don't believe so but could be wrong. We have had the facility with Westpac for a few years now. It will be interesting when the next financial come out.

                        We need a Melbourne type of Debt demolition, but unfortunately we don't have as many well off members like they do, so therefore the concern.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 17921

                          #13
                          Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I don't believe so but could be wrong. We have had the facility with Westpac for a few years now. It will be interesting when the next financial come out.

                          We need a Melbourne type of Debt demolition, but unfortunately we don't have as many well off members like they do, so therefore the concern.
                          Surely Smorgo can just put his hand down the back of the couch and pull out some cash
                          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14117

                            #14
                            Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

                            Get Westpac to sponsor us 4 mil a year over 3 years.
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: Bulldogs Financial Position

                              I hope the club don't put all there faith in revenue from pokies to sustain new investment. Especially to the people of the surrounding suburbs of the venues.

                              Looking forward for more detailed info from the club pencil pushers.

                              Go Dogs...........

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