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  • Sockeye Salmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6365

    #16
    Re: Cheap as Chips Trading Record

    Originally posted by bobmurphy
    From memory wasnt Fisher picked in the 50's?, so really Clayton passed on Fisher anyhow.

    Also we did understand that pick one in the PSD was a powerfull bargaining tool, thats why and how the Veale deal came about, so hawthorn wouldnt have traded Rawlings away. Granted it was a poor choice but at least we did something about trying to get a KP player.
    The reason the Veale deal happened was because Hawthorn still had room to fit Rawlings into their salary cap so we weren't prepared to risk him re-signing with Hawthorn.

    The Veale deal delivered Jacobs to Hawthorn taking up what was left of Hawthorn's salary cap and making it impossible for Rawlings to change his mind and stay.

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11136

      #17
      Re: Cheap as Chips Trading Record

      Originally posted by bobmurphy
      Also we did understand that pick one in the PSD was a powerfull bargaining tool, thats why and how the Veale deal came about, so hawthorn wouldnt have traded Rawlings away. Granted it was a poor choice but at least we did something about trying to get a KP player.
      By packaging up pick 1 in the PSD and pick 6 in the ND to get Rawlings, we effectively gave away pick 1 in the PSD for nothing. And the Veale Deal was not the brainchild of the Dogs - it was reputedly set up by Ian Collins, who knew we were desperate for Rawlings (actually the whole world knew we were desperate - you'd hate to have Rohde or Newport playing for your life in a hand of poker) which would allow the Blues to swoop on Stevens with pick 2 in the PSD (who we were never interested in rightly or wrongly). Carlton knew that Port wanted nothing to do with Collingwood and were happy to let Stevens go for nothing.

      We got played, simple as that. Jesus even Freo played us with Koops, sprouting off rumours that Essendon were going to part with their first round pick for him, which made us blink and offer pick 19 up on a platter. As for Street, he was about to be delisted by the Cats so to give up pick 20 was ludicrously over the odds - Streeter was well worth the gamble but we could have offered anyting over pick 40 (as the papers reported earlier that week) and the Cats would have gobbled it up.. Thankfully we haven't been played like fools during trade week ever since.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15207

        #18
        Re: Cheap as Chips Trading Record

        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
        The reason the Veale deal happened was because Hawthorn still had room to fit Rawlings into their salary cap so we weren't prepared to risk him re-signing with Hawthorn.

        The Veale deal delivered Jacobs to Hawthorn taking up what was left of Hawthorn's salary cap and making it impossible for Rawlings to change his mind and stay.
        Didn't know that, wasnt part of the agreement they also wouldn't trade him to anyone else? Doesnt really matter now, as its a mute point.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #19
          Re: Cheap as Chips Trading Record

          Originally posted by bobmurphy
          Didn't know that, wasnt part of the agreement they also wouldn't trade him to anyone else? Doesnt really matter now, as its a mute point.
          They couldn't have traded him to anyone else, it was done with about a minute to spare before the trade deadline.

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          • Dancin' Douggy
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 2877

            #20
            Re: Cheap as Chips Trading Record

            Originally posted by 42-C-3
            Exactly the point.

            Add Mundy, Stevens and Fisher to our list. All hypothetical crap I know, but you would think they would have improved our team even more, a team that was five straight kicks away from a Grand Final and possible premiership.

            Niether here, nor there. It's what happened, i am just glad we have seemed to learn from past mistakes and hope we never make them again.
            Not to mention the huge amounts of dough we threw at Rawlings.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: Cheap as Chips Trading Record

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              Minson broke his leg that game as well.
              And the Bombers had scored the first four goals of the game and we were going to go into quarter time goalless until we had a 'magic' double goal courtesy of the umpire (robbins -- i think -- scores and gets pushed and the ump gives a free kick in the goal square. Two goals for the price of one!)

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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #22
                Re: Cheap as Chips Trading Record

                Originally posted by Lantern
                And the Bombers had scored the first four goals of the game and we were going to go into quarter time goalless until we had a 'magic' double goal courtesy of the umpire (robbins -- i think -- scores and gets pushed and the ump gives a free kick in the goal square. Two goals for the price of one!)
                Fletcher on Murphy.

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