Jarrad Grant

[LostDoggy]

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I like him. i really hope hes the answer the bulldogs have been looking for.
I cannot wait to see him charging out of the goal square as our big forward.

[GVGjr]

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I like him. i really hope hes the answer the bulldogs have been looking for.
I cannot wait to see him charging out of the goal square as our big forward.

FWIW, I don't think he is the total answer for the club because we will need to find and develop a couple of other guys to support him as well. Even players like Brown and Franklin need support of other key forwards and guys like Riewoldt can't carry a team themselves.

It was a very promising effort but he will need time before he can really make a big difference for us.

[mighty_west]

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FWIW, I don't think he is the total answer for the club because we will need to find and develop a couple of other guys to support him as well. Even players like Brown and Franklin need support of other key forwards and guys like Riewoldt can't carry a team themselves.

It was a very promising effort but he will need time before he can really make a big difference for us.

Off course he will, and i'm sure the likes of Cordy & Roughead etc will be developed to play alot of time up forward to help him out as much as he does the same, but he gives us some hope for the future, it's been a long time since we have had a real key forward.

[alwaysadog]

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FWIW, I don't think he is the total answer for the club because we will need to find and develop a couple of other guys to support him as well. Even players like Brown and Franklin need support of other key forwards and guys like Riewoldt can't carry a team themselves.

It was a very promising effort but he will need time before he can really make a big difference for us.

Yes, there's a long way to go from a promising, if flawed beginning, to becoming the next big thing. I'm not so worried about his kicking I put that down to nerves, but as one swallow does not make a summer, so one NAB cup game doesn't make a career.

I think he showed glimpses of plenty but don't let's get ahead of where he's at. A few might like to recall the hype that surrounded Cam Wight after a couple of reasonable finals games a few years ago or countless others who have all too briefly flitted across the scene, anyone remember Brad Murphy's first game?

I think we need to hype him less and let him work his way through the next season or two without too much pressure.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Yes, there's a long way to go from a promising, if flawed beginning, to becoming the next big thing. I'm not so worried about his kicking I put that down to nerves, but as one swallow does not make a summer, so one NAB cup game doesn't make a career.

I think he showed glimpses of plenty but don't let's get ahead of where he's at. A few might like to recall the hype that surrounded Cam Wight after a couple of reasonable finals games a few years ago or countless others who have all too briefly flitted across the scene, anyone remember Brad Murphy's first game?

I think we need to hype him less and let him work his way through the next season or two without too much pressure.

Brad Murphy was a case of not having it mentally. He proved in his first game v Port Adelaide he had the ability, and even in the next couple of games, one against Essendon at the Dome in Round 22 I believe, that he certainly could play. I was real surprised he didn't take the next step. Instead, he took ten backwards because he didn't work not nearly hard enough. That's the thing though - ability alone won't get you there.

It's definitely important to at least find one other foil for Grant, be it Boumann, Cordy or whoever else. Certainly require a two tall effect, otherwise it'll be far too easy for opposition to shut Grant out of the game.

That's speaking a few years ahead though, for now he just needs to develop his game and work hard on his weaknesses.

[alwaysadog]

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Brad Murphy was a case of not having it mentally. He proved in his first game v Port Adelaide he had the ability, and even in the next couple of games, one against Essendon at the Dome in Round 22 I believe, that he certainly could play. I was real surprised he didn't take the next step. Instead, he took ten backwards because he didn't work not nearly hard enough. That's the thing though - ability alone won't get you there.

It's definitely important to at least find one other foil for Grant, be it Boumann, Cordy or whoever else. Certainly require a two tall effect, otherwise it'll be far too easy for opposition to shut Grant out of the game.

That's speaking a few years ahead though, for now he just needs to develop his game and work hard on his weaknesses.

Couldn't agree more FWIW. I think Brad listened to the wrong people who got him so far ahead of himself that he never got back to reality. I don't want this to happen to Jarrad.

[LostDoggy]

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I can think of at least one big man in the AFL who can't kick to save himself, yet has a fantastic pair of hands, gets plenty of the ball and can turn games.

Perhaps Grant can one day refine his kicking action and become an influence on games just like Richo. Heres hoping. All i know is i haven't been as excited about a tall young forward since his namesake came to our club.

[Go_Dogs]

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Thought Grant was very impressive - although he's still tiny. His goal kicking was a bit shaky during the match, but as others have commented during the warm ups he didn't look to bad (was right in the pocket near our seats). The person who I went with got a few photos of him goal kicking during warm ups so I'll see if I can get a hold of them.

His work ethic and ability to cover the ground was impressive. Still gets knocked off the ball too easily, and won't be much more than a bit player this year, but certainly seems to have all the tools to make some sort of impact this season - but more so in coming years. Took a pretty heavy hit too and although in some discomfort it was pleasing to see him trying to stay on the field and compose himself.

[Mofra]

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I can think of at least one big man in the AFL who can't kick to save himself, yet has a fantastic pair of hands, gets plenty of the ball and can turn games.

Perhaps Grant can one day refine his kicking action and become an influence on games just like Richo. Heres hoping. All i know is i haven't been as excited about a tall young forward since his namesake came to our club.

Richo's accuracy percentages are too far out of whack in comparison to many other top forwards though.

Another example of initial impression staining a player for the rest of his career.

[ledge]

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Sadly Richo playing at Richmond found himself going out to the wing to get kicks and having a lot of shots from hard angles.

We all look at accuracy but do we look at where they had most of their shots?

I think a lot of it depends on game plan by coaches and whether they are told to lead straight up eg Lloyd, Lockett, Brown.
Some are told to lead to pockets, which i think Richo has done a lot of.
I seriously believe you put Richo in Brisbanes side in the early 2000s he probably would have kicked 300 goals in 3 years.
A lot depends on delivery too and how good your centremen are at precise kicking.

[ledge]

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I do enjoy watching Aker kick, he doesnt actually kick it as such, its more a push, he also never does banana kicks, watching him running into goal he guides and pushes the ball, its not a full on smack.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Sadly Richo playing at Richmond found himself going out to the wing to get kicks and having a lot of shots from hard angles.

We all look at accuracy but do we look at where they had most of their shots?

I think a lot of it depends on game plan by coaches and whether they are told to lead straight up eg Lloyd, Lockett, Brown.
Some are told to lead to pockets, which i think Richo has done a lot of.
I seriously believe you put Richo in Brisbanes side in the early 2000s he probably would have kicked 300 goals in 3 years.
A lot depends on delivery too and how good your centremen are at precise kicking.

Richo only moved to the wing last year. He's been a hot and cold shot for goal all his career, often missing bread and butter shots, not just from hard angles.

[ledge]

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Richo only moved to the wing last year. He's been a hot and cold shot for goal all his career, often missing bread and butter shots, not just from hard angles.

All through out his career he has had to push up the ground to get a kick, last year they actually named him out there.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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All through out his career he has had to push up the ground to get a kick, last year they actually named him out there.

For sure, but I think his pot luck conversion rate when shooting for goal in gettable positions has been demonstrated over a long enough period it to be a confirmed issue.
I'm pretty sure he's even commented on it himself.

I heard a funny story about Richo after he got dragged for a very poor shot at goal. He was sitting on the bench next to a young player (I think it was young Raines) who was minding his own business... next thing Richo pipes up without any prompting "Oh I don't know why I do it Rainesy I just do, OK!"

He's a character is Richo!

[hujsh]

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For sure, but I think his pot luck conversion rate when shooting for goal in gettable positions has been demonstrated over a long enough period it to be a confirmed issue.
I'm pretty sure he's even commented on it himself.

I heard a funny story about Richo after he got dragged for a very poor shot at goal. He was sitting on the bench next to a young player (I think it was young Raines) who was minding his own business... next thing Richo pipes up without any prompting "Oh I don't know why I do it Rainesy I just do, OK!"

He's a character is Richo!

Not hard to tell he's the oldest footballer in the league when he talks to himself