Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

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  • alwaysadog
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2006
    • 1436

    #16
    Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

    Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
    He did look a bit at sea in defence, perhaps they are trying to teach him a thing or two about defending and defensive pressure so he can take that when playing up forward.

    He looks a very raw footballer, Ayce is the complete opposite in terms of someone who oozes class and looks like he has the ball on a string. Bouman however looks very much like one of the queensland import that take up the game in their teens. Physically he's got great attributes but looks a little lost at times.

    Personally i don't see a lot in Bouman, i think he now has a lot of competition in Cordy, Grant and Roughead for a forward role, and will play the season at Williamstown.

    A good season would be for him to put some weight on. He looks fitter but he's still too lean for a KPP. He will also need to improve on last year, which means he will need to play more games in the Willy firsts, and hopefully have an impact (kick some goals, take some marks). So far he's been playing in the reserves against much smaller opponents. If he's going to succeed then he should be able to beat larger bodied opponents with his ability. If he can't even do that now i can't see a future for him.
    He suffers if one compares him to Ayce, very different draft positions. I agree he is totally raw and its not that he's undisciplined, though he may be that too, but that he's never learnt what being a rounded player is all about and now he's got to start. I doubt he's ever had to worry about defence, he would have had the pace to win the ball as a junior.

    Skinny, that's an understatement, he was only played on Ayce so that people wouldn't laugh at him. From my vantage point I couldn't see any hips at all.

    At this stage I'm not so worried about him, I hate the cliche, but he is a project, probably a long term project.

    I can see positives as well as negatives. His speed is amazing either making position or chasing and laying a tackle. He is a lot more comfortable when we have possession. He makes position quite well and he's aware of who's around him.

    Now I'm not getting carried away, he is a long way from even being an emergency for the seniors but the ball is in his court. As Ayce showed in spite of all the tackling practice Jarrad still lets his opponent work their arms free, a cardinal sin IMO.

    Can he develop his strengths so they represent a threat and work on his weaknesses so they are not an embarassment? He managed a couple of games for Willie firsts late in the season I believe, so he showed something and that wily coach for the blue and yellow will be on his case and in his ear.

    I've got an open mind in the end it probably depends who he teams up with at the club as a role model and how much he wants to succeed.
    [I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #17
      Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

      Roughead>>>> Boumann

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45577

        #18
        Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

        Originally posted by JH40
        Roughead>>>> Boumann
        Based on what?
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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6599

          #19
          Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

          Ive seen very little of him, whats he like below his knees is he still a chance at impacting on the contest or does he struggle with the footy on the deck?

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15547

            #20
            Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Based on what?
            Agree.

            Roughead is a developing ruckman whereas Boumann is a developing key forward/ defender. They really can't be compared.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45577

              #21
              Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Agree.

              Roughead is a developing ruckman whereas Boumann is a developing key forward/ defender. They really can't be compared.

              Both are unproven. I'm optimistic about Roughead based on a few TAC games I saw him play and his efforts so far at training but Boumann has been very restricted from him shoulder operation so we can't discount him too much.
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              • alwaysadog
                Senior Player
                • Dec 2006
                • 1436

                #22
                Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

                Originally posted by lemmon
                Ive seen very little of him, whats he like below his knees is he still a chance at impacting on the contest or does he struggle with the footy on the deck?
                It's all pure speculation. How many boom recruits have we witnessed who were the next big thing until they had to pull on a boot in anger?

                It's lovely media stuff and Rocket knows how to do it and how important it is, especially as the club seems to have forgotten how to spell media smarts, let alone practise it, but none of the recruits has really made a case in the way that Chris Grant did.

                On the other hand they didn't look out of place.
                Last edited by alwaysadog; 23-02-2009, 08:23 PM. Reason: typo
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                • alwaysadog
                  Senior Player
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1436

                  #23
                  Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Agree.

                  Roughead is a developing ruckman whereas Boumann is a developing key forward/ defender. They really can't be compared.
                  I know that's the goss on Roughie, but I'm not sure that's what we have in mind. Only time will tell.
                  [I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]

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                  • lemmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6599

                    #24
                    Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

                    Originally posted by alwaysadog
                    It's all pure speculation. How many boom recruits have we witnessed who were the next big thing until they had to pull on a boot in anger?

                    It's lovely media stuff and Rocket knows how to do it and how important it is, especially as the club seems to have forgotten how to spell media smarts, let alone practise it, but none of the recruits has really made a case in the way that Chris Grant did.

                    On the other hand they didn't look out of place.
                    I think i may have been misunderstood, is he any good when the ball hits the floor or is he only a chance when going at a grab?

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 45577

                      #25
                      Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

                      Originally posted by lemmon
                      Ive seen very little of him, whats he like below his knees is he still a chance at impacting on the contest or does he struggle with the footy on the deck?
                      He's not bad in that regard. Like most tall underdeveloped youngsters Boumann still has a lot to learn but when it all clicks for him he does some exciting things. He needs time but he also needs to put the work in. I'm not expecting great things from him this year but if he continues to improve we might have a handy mobile tall ready to slot into the seniors in 2010.
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                      • alwaysadog
                        Senior Player
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1436

                        #26
                        Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        He's not bad in that regard. Like most tall underdeveloped youngsters Boumann still has a lot to learn but when it all clicks for him he does some exciting things. He needs time but he also needs to put the work in. I'm not expecting great things from him this year but if he continues to improve we might have a handy mobile tall ready to slot into the seniors in 2010.
                        That's consistent with what I've seen of him so far.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

                          Originally posted by alwaysadog
                          I know that's the goss on Roughie, but I'm not sure that's what we have in mind. Only time will tell.
                          What this guy said ^

                          Boumann won't make it at AFL level.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45577

                            #28
                            Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

                            Originally posted by JH40
                            What this guy said ^

                            Boumann won't make it at AFL level.
                            How about supporting that statement with some valid reasons or flaws in his game?
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                            • alwaysadog
                              Senior Player
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 1436

                              #29
                              Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              How about supporting that statement with some valid reasons or flaws in his game?
                              What he said.
                              [I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #30
                                Re: Jarrad Boumann - 2009 Outlook

                                Originally posted by JH40
                                What this guy said ^

                                Boumann won't make it at AFL level.
                                you seem to contradict yourself! In other threads your asking to give players a go after they have come back from injury! Let the kid have a crack and see how he go's!

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