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  • Cyberdoggie
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 2861

    #1

    Rate the Engine Room!

    The Engine Room!

    this is where it all happens.

    Grand Final's are often won and lost on the quality of the ball magnests that each side posseses in the middle of the field. Whether they be speedy runners, inside work horses, or skillfull leaders, the right combination of all is essential if a side wants to be there in september.

    As we are in the pre-season (silly season) it's always nice to put up hypotheticals posts and to bring out the Nostradamus within, so i thought i'd list each clubs main midfielders and rate them in order as i see it for the coming season. (excluding the ruckmen)

    I'm interested in seeing how other people rate them, it's actually not easy.



    1. Geelong - Corey, Ablett, Bartel, Ling, Selwood, Kelly,
    2. Western Bulldogs - Cooney, Griffen, Cross, Boyd, Eagleton, Higgins, Gia
    3. Brisbane - Power, Black, Rischitelli, Rich, Johnstone, Dalziell,
    4. Carlton - Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Gibbs, Carrazzo, Scotland,
    5. Hawthorn - Mitchell, Ladson, Bateman, Lewis, Osborne, Young, Sewell
    6. Adelaide - Thompson, Edwards, Goodwin, Van Berlo, Doughty,
    7. Richmond - Deledio, Tuck, Cotchin, Cousins, Coughlan, Foley, Johnson, Polo, Tambling
    8. Port Adelaide - K Cornes, Cassisi, S Burgoyne, Pearce, Rodan,
    9. North Melbourne - Harvey, Simpson, Harris, Wells, Ziebell, Power, Swallow,
    10. StKilda - Hayes, Montagna, Dal Santo, Baker, Ball, Ray,
    11. Collingwood - Swan, Pendlebury, Lockyer, O'Bree, Wellingham, Beams, Maxwell,
    12. Sydney - Kirk, Bolton, McVeigh, Goodes, Ablett, Crouch, Jack, Shaw,
    13. WCE - Embley, Priddis, Selwood, Rosa, Fletcher, Ebert, Kerr, Masten, Stenglein
    14. Fremantle - Palmer, Crowley, Hasleby, Hill, Ibbotson, Peake, Schammer
    15. Essendon - Stanton, Watson, Houli, Lonergan, McVeigh, Monfries, Skipworth
    16. Melbourne - Bruce, Green, McDonald, Jones, Dunn, Moloney, McLean
    Last edited by Cyberdoggie; 26-02-2009, 11:18 PM.
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45580

    #2
    Re: Rate the Engine Room!

    This will take some time, very difficult indeed.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15548

      #3
      Re: Rate the Engine Room!

      You missed Sewell from Hawthorn who is one of their better midfielder's.

      Would like to see the difference adding a ruckman into the mix makes.

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      • Sockeye Salmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6365

        #4
        Re: Rate the Engine Room!

        What that tells me is that it's

        Geelong

        Daylight

        Dogs

        More daylight

        Everyone else



        It also tells me Hawthorn have a pretty decent forward line.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45580

          #5
          Re: Rate the Engine Room!

          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
          What that tells me is that it's

          Geelong

          Daylight

          Dogs

          More daylight

          Everyone else



          It also tells me Hawthorn have a pretty decent forward line.
          I think you add Sewell to the Hawks midfield list that that Cyberdoggie provided it is a very accountable and direct into the forward line group.

          I also think the Carlton midfielder group could just about cover us at the moment.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Sockeye Salmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6365

            #6
            Re: Rate the Engine Room!

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            I think you add Sewell to the Hawks midfield list that that Cyberdoggie provided it is a very accountable and direct into the forward line group.

            I also think the Carlton midfielder group could just about cover us at the moment.
            I think we've fairly easily got them covered.

            Judd - Cooney, both go OK.
            Gibbs/Murphy - Griffen/Higgins (some talent in this group!)

            Not much in it so far.


            Stevens (unaccountable hack) - Eagleton (I'll leave it for Mantis or Cyberdoggie to say it).
            Carazzo/Scotland (workhorses) - Cross/Boyd (better workhorses)

            And our part-timers are much better than theirs as well - Gia, Aker and Johnno.

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            • Dogs 24/7
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2007
              • 1259

              #7
              Re: Rate the Engine Room!

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              I think we've fairly easily got them covered.

              Judd - Cooney, both go OK.
              Gibbs/Murphy - Griffen/Higgins (some talent in this group!)

              Not much in it so far.


              Stevens (unaccountable hack) - Eagleton (I'll leave it for Mantis or Cyberdoggie to say it).
              Carazzo/Scotland (workhorses) - Cross/Boyd (better workhorses)

              And our part-timers are much better than theirs as well - Gia, Aker and Johnno.
              I know what you are saying but its still a very good outfit and I think Stevens is better than portrayed.

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              • Scraggers
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jun 2008
                • 3587

                #8
                Re: Rate the Engine Room!

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I also think the Carlton midfielder group could just about cover us at the moment.
                Agreed ...

                Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Gibbs, Carrazzo, Scotland (Simpson and Hadley)
                Cooney, Griffen, Cross, Boyd, Eagleton, Higgins, Gia

                Judd is in a league of his own ... I don't think their is a midfielder in the game that can match him when he is on ... having said that

                I rank our front runners (Cooney, Griffen, Cross, Higgins) well above theirs (Stevens, Murphy, Gibbs)

                Where I think we get beaten is our second string attack.

                When you consider Andrew Carrazzo and Heath Scotland and you could easily add Kade Simpson and Richard Hadley to the mix, our second tier of Boyd, Gia and Eagleton doesn't look as strong.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 15116

                  #9
                  Re: Rate the Engine Room!

                  Originally posted by Scraggers
                  Where I think we get beaten is our second string attack.

                  When you consider Andrew Carrazzo and Heath Scotland and you could easily add Kade Simpson and Richard Hadley to the mix, our second tier of Boyd, Gia and Eagleton doesn't look as strong.
                  Gia is sorely underrated here - a guy who has clean disposal in traffic, and matched O'Keefe stat for stat playing off the bench is better than Carrazzo or Scotland.

                  Having said that, Carrazzo is better than most rate him as well.
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                  • Sockeye Salmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6365

                    #10
                    Re: Rate the Engine Room!

                    Originally posted by Scraggers
                    Agreed ...

                    Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Gibbs, Carrazzo, Scotland (Simpson and Hadley)
                    Cooney, Griffen, Cross, Boyd, Eagleton, Higgins, Gia

                    Judd is in a league of his own ... I don't think their is a midfielder in the game that can match him when he is on ... having said that

                    I rank our front runners (Cooney, Griffen, Cross, Higgins) well above theirs (Stevens, Murphy, Gibbs)

                    Where I think we get beaten is our second string attack.

                    When you consider Andrew Carrazzo and Heath Scotland and you could easily add Kade Simpson and Richard Hadley to the mix, our second tier of Boyd, Gia and Eagleton doesn't look as strong.
                    If you want to get into 2nd string and part time midfielders, a couple of geriatrics in Akermanis and Johnson go alright.

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15484

                      #11
                      Re: Rate the Engine Room!

                      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                      I think we've fairly easily got them covered.

                      Judd - Cooney, both go OK.
                      Gibbs/Murphy - Griffen/Higgins (some talent in this group!)

                      Not much in it so far.


                      Stevens (unaccountable hack) - Eagleton (I'll leave it for Mantis or Cyberdoggie to say it).
                      Carazzo/Scotland (workhorses) - Cross/Boyd (better workhorses)

                      And our part-timers are much better than theirs as well - Gia, Aker and Johnno.
                      On paper I agree, but in reality such as 2008 and 2007 Carlton's midfield ran all over ours and destroyed us.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15548

                        #12
                        Re: Rate the Engine Room!

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        If you want to get into 2nd string and part time midfielders, a couple of geriatrics in Akermanis and Johnson go alright.
                        Very debatable.

                        As a midfielder his field kicking is quite poor, he relies on other's to give him the ball and he ain't to accountable. Johnno should have a wrist band that gives him an electric shock every time he runs past the wing.

                        Perhaps I can be the one giving out the shocks.... That would be fun.

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15548

                          #13
                          Re: Rate the Engine Room!

                          I can't believe the love Higgins is getting in this thread. Yeah the kid has potential to become a very good midfielder, but rating him at present with the likes of Gibbs & Murphy is a bit unfair to the Carlton players. At the end of this year it might be a different story, but at present Higgins has no runs on the board as a midfielder.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #14
                            Re: Rate the Engine Room!

                            I can't believe the love Scotland is getting.
                            If Carlton has the 4th best midfield and almost a 100 (almost) goal per year forward then why did they finish well outside the 8?
                            There defence and maybe their ruck is crap but I don't think the Hawks are great there either.

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11962

                              #15
                              Re: Rate the Engine Room!

                              Hawks midfield looked much better with Hodge in it.

                              Agree with Sockeye but i think Stevens is still much better than Eagle. They do share some similar bad qualities i suppose.
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