Game Day - Bulldogs vs Dockers

[Jasper]

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We are blinded by Rocket's love of Addison, not our own. He is one of the first names on the teamsheet every week, just pointing that out -- different players are earmarked for different roles, team balance is more important than specific personnel.

Re: Next week, Murph will probably not play, Welsh may/may not come in, Rocket would have earmarked players to rotate over the first five weeks -- Cooney may be rotated if sore, Eagle and Aker may be rotated depending on how they pull up.

Based on team structure, Tiller or Everitt are the most likely to be rotated out for Tim Callan.

How do you figure, they are both 3rd tall types were as callan is a small (same as addison), and both are far more versitile as they can play both tall and small.

[LostDoggy]

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Callan was icing bruised ribs during/after the Willy Prac match. he may not get up. Didn't play any game time after the second qtr from memory.

[Jasper]

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Once again, different roles. Comparing apples with oranges.

Ps. LOVE Ward, by the way.

Latern I am interest to know what roll you think addison plays and who he is competing with because everyone I see him competing with you have shut down.

[LostDoggy]

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How do you figure, they are both 3rd tall types were as callan is a small (same as addison), and both are far more versitile as they can play both tall and small.

Horses for courses, depending on opposition -- against teams with a specialist small forward, Callan will be needed at the expense of one of the two versatile 3rd tall types (better than either Tiller or Everitt on a super-quick small).

However, as may often be the case that against more flexible teams without a specialist small forward, Tiller and Everitt will be needed and Callan will not have an obvious direct opponent and find it hard to get in the 22.

(This all assumes a fully fit team. Defence group is generally made up of Lake, Hargrave, Morris, Williams, Gilbee, Tiller, Everitt and Callan to fill 6 + 1 spots [6 start, 1 on bench] depending on opposition, all with ear-marked roles, with scope for flexibility. Dylan has been training with both defence and midfield groups over pre-season, with eye towards much more midfield time, but with the flexibility to swing back when required.)

[DOGSTAR]

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Had a few goals kicked on him.

Tiller got caught out of position a couple of times in the first quarter,but battled back for the rest of the game and showed he can hold down the position, he works hard.
Tim Callan probably won't be fit for the next round. The word out is that Murphy will be given more time, it could be up to round 4 before we see him playing.

[LostDoggy]

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Latern I am interest to know what roll you think addison plays and who he is competing with because everyone I see him competing with you have shut down.

Those with more direct access to Rocket please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that he provides the grunt in the hole, moving forward into midfield or swinging back as required.

Is seen as a vital cog in the structure because he has the flexibility to come off the bench to essentially play a couple of roles:

1. Shore up the hardness of the midfield as cover for Boydy and Cross via the interchange, as the in-and-under ball-winning ability of the midfield falls away after those two guys.

2. Able to go back at a pinch to help out the defence with any 'swingmen' the opposition might throw forward.

DFA starts on the bench, and is crucial to maintaining the intensity of the contest in the middle when some of the starting midfielders come off. No one else on the list really does this, while having the flexibility to help out in defence. Rocket has been documented to lament Dylan's loss last year as particularly devastating to the Dogs' finals hopes.

[Mantis]

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Those with more direct access to Rocket please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that he provides the grunt in the hole, moving forward into midfield or swinging back as required.

Is seen as a vital cog in the structure because he has the flexibility to come off the bench to essentially play a couple of roles:

1. Shore up the hardness of the midfield as cover for Boydy and Cross via the interchange, as the in-and-under ball-winning ability of the midfield falls away after those two guys.

2. Able to go back at a pinch to help out the defence with any 'swingmen' the opposition might throw forward.

DFA starts on the bench, and is crucial to maintaining the intensity of the contest in the middle when some of the starting midfielders come off. No one else on the list really does this, while having the flexibility to help out in defence. Rocket has been documented to lament Dylan's loss last year as particularly devastating to the Dogs' finals hopes.

I think all the points you have raised about Dylan are valid. It's plainly obvious that he is well regarded amongst his peers and coaches within the club for the simple fact that you know that you will get a honest effort everytime he sets foot on the ground.

His disopsal is improving, but still isn't great, but his tackling and courage make him a stable member of our best 22.

[DOGSTAR]

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IF Murph is right to play next week, I imagine Everitt might be under the most pressure to make way. He was okay tonight but nothing great. Ward's last quarter was a beauty and should be enough to keep his spot after a fairly quiet first three quarters. Hill is an important player....provides so many options for Eade whether he be up forward, on the wing or floating around the ground. Reckon his spot is safe as he has the X factor that you need in our team, and because we don't have a true key forward we need a bloke who can take a grab like Hill can.

I was at the game last night and agree Hill has the X Factor, but he is not a 4 Quarter performer,at times last night in the first half he was very soft and didn't want to attack the ball or the opponents, it was only after Eade gave him a rev up that he started to show what he is capable of. He also did this in the trial games. I feel that if this continues he could find himself on the outer.

[Jasper]

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his disposal efficiency last night was 53%(by far the worst in the side and second worst of any player on the ground) he had 3 clangers from his 15 stats including one he kick out on the full under no pressure over 20 metres, I am sorry but he just has to hit that target every time. Their is no way he can be called a "stable member" until his disposal improves a lot.

[always right]

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his disposal efficiency last night was 53%(by far the worst in the side and second worst of any player on the ground) he had 3 clangers from his 15 stats including one he kick out on the full under no pressure over 20 metres, I am sorry but he just has to hit that target every time. Their is no way he can be called a "stable member" until his disposal improves a lot.

His disposal is improving and there's lots of upside. If he can eliminate the occasional clanger, then he will be a pretty complete package who provides a different element to the team. He's versatile, good overhead, committed, runs down blokes, and takes no shit. He's everything Jordan McMahon wasn't. Is is it any wonder he gets a lot of love here?

[bulldogtragic]

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He's everything Jordan McMahon wasn't. Is is it any wonder he gets a lot of love here?

Quote of the year!

[soupman]

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How do you figure, they are both 3rd tall types were as callan is a small (same as addison), and both are far more versitile as they can play both tall and small.

Callan is a different type of player to the other 3 mentioned here. Callan plays on the dangerous crumbing smalls; the Davey's, Rioli's, Farmer's and Davis'. None of the other players mentioned have the pace, positioning ability or turning circle to match it with any of these guys. Shanggy is the only other viable option but he is more suited to the Brad Johnson type of players (the Medhurst's). Fremantle didn't have any real dangerous small forwards that Callan would normally take, but North have heaps (Thomas, Campbell and even Harvey). Thats why Callan if fit should be brought into the side.

his disposal efficiency last night was 53%(by far the worst in the side and second worst of any player on the ground) he had 3 clangers from his 15 stats including one he kick out on the full under no pressure over 20 metres, I am sorry but he just has to hit that target every time. Their is no way he can be called a "stable member" until his disposal improves a lot.

Addison is in the side for his hardness and attack at the footy, and his love of a physical contest. He's the sort of player we have lacked in the last few years, someone who genuinely will hurt the opposition. He's the type of player every side wants for the finals. Yes, his disposal can be shoddy but generally its acceptable, and the benefits to the side he offers (which are almost solely brought by him) outweigh any negatives.

[Bulldog4life]

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Apart from being a great team effort the player to impress me most last night was Mathew Boyd.
He just gets better and better each season and last night his reflexes in cutting off passes that were going to the opposition was sensational.

Also his ability to effect constructive handleballs with either hand is top shelf and his kicking is improving too. He is such an important midfielder to us now and I just love his work ethic.

[Jasper]

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Callan is a different type of player to the other 3 mentioned here. Callan plays on the dangerous crumbing smalls; the Davey's, Rioli's, Farmer's and Davis'. None of the other players mentioned have the pace, positioning ability or turning circle to match it with any of these guys. Shanggy is the only other viable option but he is more suited to the Brad Johnson type of players (the Medhurst's). Fremantle didn't have any real dangerous small forwards that Callan would normally take, but North have heaps (Thomas, Campbell and even Harvey). Thats why Callan if fit should be brought into the side.

Agree with every thing you said, my point was callan should be in the side but he his unlikely to replace everitt or tiller because of the different role they play, but addison plays a similar role so he may replace him.

Addison is in the side for his hardness and attack at the footy, and his love of a physical contest. He's the sort of player we have lacked in the last few years, someone who genuinely will hurt the opposition. He's the type of player every side wants for the finals. Yes, his disposal can be shoddy but generally its acceptable, and the benefits to the side he offers (which are almost solely brought by him) outweigh any negatives.

Mate I love his attack at the footy and the body but i am sorry 53% is not acceptable it has to improve and fast, we can't not afford to carry plays with poor skills because the hawks and the cats don't. what is "solely brought by him" ? I think your selling the rest of the team short mate we have plenty on tough play.

[Jasper]

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Apart from being a great team effort the player to impress me most last night was Mathew Boyd.
He just gets better and better each season and last night his reflexes in cutting off passes that were going to the opposition was sensational.

Also his ability to effect constructive handleballs with either hand is top shelf and his kicking is improving too. He is such an important midfielder to us now and I just love his work ethic.

I ccouldn't agree more some of his handballs last night were voss like