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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66785

    On the Couch - Fox Sports

    Hird has now taken over Robert Walls role and as usual was a wanker. Healy and Mike Sheahan rated Geelong, Hawthorn and the Doggies above the rest of the pack, however, Hird rated Port Adelaide above us. He is another one that never praises the dogs.

    Hird had his top ten players listed alongside Sheahans and of course not one bulldog amongst them.

    When discussing the Freo game, Sheahan pointed out that not one team kicked more than 20 goals aginst Freo last year and how good the perfomance was. Hird's response was the dogs performance wasn't that good as 18 goals came from Freo turnovers, the guy is an absolute tool.
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  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    #2
    Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

    He obviously still hasn't got over Granty's goal

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    • Rocket Science
      Coaching Staff
      • Oct 2007
      • 4854

      #3
      Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

      He does have something of a point - few opponents this year will hand us possession on a platter in the corridor like Freo did on Sunday. Our pressure was generally a factor and more often than not we were composed enough to make them pay, but they seriously butchered the footy so regularly I almost pitied them.

      I also suspect Mike's gotten a little carried away with us based on one round of footy.
      BORDERLINE FLYING

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      • Cyberdoggie
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 2859

        #4
        Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

        Originally posted by Rocket Science
        He does have something of a point - few opponents this year will hand us possession on a platter in the corridor like Freo did on Sunday. Our pressure was generally a factor and more often than not we were composed enough to make them pay, but they seriously butchered the footy so regularly I almost pitied them.

        I also suspect Mike's gotten a little carried away with us based on one round of footy.
        That wouldn't be the first time.

        Mike loves jumping on the bad wagon. As soon a team has a big win he is all over them like a bad smell, he's also the first to jump off after a bad loss. Typical news man.

        Let's see how we go against North this week. I think it will be a better gauge of where we are. North always give us trouble and will bust their guts to beat us. If we win convincingly then maybe even Jimmy 't'Hird might change his opinion

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        • SonofScray
          Coaching Staff
          • Apr 2008
          • 4240

          #5
          Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

          Mike had as picked as a potential "slider" in the preseason Footy Magazine lift out that his paper does each year. I was astonished that he has jumped back on board so quick, if I was a bit of a cynic I'd say he is setting us up for a run of "choker" headlines.
          Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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          • Sedat
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2007
            • 11265

            #6
            Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

            Originally posted by Rocket Science
            I also suspect Mike's gotten a little carried away with us based on one round of footy.
            Less than a week ago, 3rd position in 2008 "flattered us". He changes positions more often than a porn star.
            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14332

              #7
              Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

              Healy had him by the short and curlys when he mentioned Mike rated them this year but called them crap last year and is same list!
              Bring back the biff

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

                Originally posted by Sedat
                Less than a week ago, 3rd position in 2008 "flattered us". He changes positions more often than a porn star.
                lol sounds like you're going for the Woof quote of the year award

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                • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8967

                  #9
                  Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Hird has now taken over Robert Walls role and as usual was a wanker. Healy and Mike Sheahan rated Geelong, Hawthorn and the Doggies above the rest of the pack, however, Hird rated Port Adelaide above us. He is another one that never praises the dogs.

                  Hird had his top ten players listed alongside Sheahans and of course not one bulldog amongst them.

                  When discussing the Freo game, Sheahan pointed out that not one team kicked more than 20 goals aginst Freo last year and how good the perfomance was. Hird's response was the dogs performance wasn't that good as 18 goals came from Freo turnovers, the guy is an absolute tool.
                  Hird didn't say our performance wasn't that good, he merely pointed out that 18 of our 25 goals came from Freo turnovers, and that this was a statistically high figure.
                  I don't disagree with that assessment. As I was watching the game I also picked that up, and whilst several errors were due to our pressure, the vast majority were un forced skill errors. WE can't expect that to happen each week.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66785

                    #10
                    Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

                    Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                    Hird didn't say our performance wasn't that good, he merely pointed out that 18 of our 25 goals came from Freo turnovers, and that this was a statistically high figure.
                    I don't disagree with that assessment. As I was watching the game I also picked that up, and whilst several errors were due to our pressure, the vast majority were un forced skill errors. WE can't expect that to happen each week.
                    Thats fine, and big deal, 18 goals came from turnovers, hey welcome to modern day footy Hirdy. The fact he rates Port higher than the dogs just confirms to me what I have thought of the man all these years.
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      The fact he rates Port higher than the dogs just confirms to me what I have thought of the man all these years.
                      Yeah, wanker.

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                      • mighty_west
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3439

                        #12
                        Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

                        Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                        Hird didn't say our performance wasn't that good, he merely pointed out that 18 of our 25 goals came from Freo turnovers, and that this was a statistically high figure.
                        I don't disagree with that assessment. As I was watching the game I also picked that up, and whilst several errors were due to our pressure, the vast majority were un forced skill errors. WE can't expect that to happen each week.
                        Well Hirdy should know more than anyone, you can only beat who you play, and perhaps he could have given us credit for QUICKLY stopping their run on from the opening bounce, the old Dogs would have conceeded 8 or 9 goals in that first term, they got the jump on us, yet we quickly plugged them back and some.

                        They got back at us again, then we just killed them, thats what good teams do, especially with their home ground advantage, their crowd.

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                        • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8967

                          #13
                          Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

                          Originally posted by mighty_west
                          Well Hirdy should know more than anyone, you can only beat who you play, and perhaps he could have given us credit for QUICKLY stopping their run on from the opening bounce, the old Dogs would have conceeded 8 or 9 goals in that first term, they got the jump on us, yet we quickly plugged them back and some.

                          They got back at us again, then we just killed them, thats what good teams do, especially with their home ground advantage, their crowd.
                          I agree we did well, but having said that I think that Hird was just tempering Sheahan's glowing praise.
                          I will be more impressed if we do this against quality opposition that doesn't turnover the ball and wilt under pressure.

                          I think it's unrealistic to expect us to score so heavily from turnovers week in week out, and we will need to generate more of our own ball from the middle, and I think this is the essence of what Hird was trying to convey as a counterpoint to Mike's unbridled enthusiasm over our performance against a team that finished 15th last year, and who has a significantly more inexperienced list than when we played them last time.

                          No doubt there appears to be a harder edge to our play, and I look forward to seeing it hold up against the better teams in the competition.

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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            #14
                            Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

                            Don't mind Hird,the other half has done some business with gemba and relayed to me that he is quite a nice fella.As for Sheehan how is it possible that a team after 22 rounds is ''flattered'' by finishing third. Then the big suck job last night.Time for another fluff Wayne Carey piece Mike.

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                            • Dogs 24/7
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1199

                              #15
                              Re: On the Couch - Fox Sports

                              I get the felling from a number of Bulldogs supporters that if anyone from the media bags us then they are stupid and no good at their job. I know others have mentioned this but if I was Grant Thomas I would never have rated the Doggies that highly either.
                              Hirds entitled to his opinion as is Thomas and Caro. I don't agree with them but they are just doing their job.

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