Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

    Originally posted by lemmon
    If Everitt plays I wouldnt mind seeing him spend some time on Richo when he is further up the ground as IMO he has more ability to hurt him going the other way. Who plays on Jack Riewoldt is also a fairly interesting one, not sure Lake has the agility or turning circle to go with him. Everitt or a Tiller would be a perfect matchup.
    Picken should go with Foley and Cross or Boyd to run with Deledio IMO.
    Another unknown is Simmonds and I think he could really hurt us, I cant see Hudson or Minson being able to go with him around the ground so IMO we'll see a lot of Hudson and Minson on the ground together, one rucking and one at FF. They lack a defender with the size to take either of these two.
    Richo will tear Everitt a new one and possibly an extra for good measure.

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11844

      #17
      Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

      Originally posted by The Coon Dog



      I just think the Bulldogs have more good players than Richmond & will win. Obviously the Bulldogs have to stop Matthew Richardson. Do that & they’re half way there, whereas Richmond on the other hand have to stop more than just one player. Allow Griffen, Gilbee, Boyd, Cross, Higgins, Cooney & Giansiracusa to run through the middle unmolested & you’re asking for trouble, on the other hand, try matching them up & you run the risk of having no one to kick to if you do win possession.
      Surely there are other ways to stop them?
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • lemmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6522

        #18
        Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

        Originally posted by TAMA
        Richo will tear Everitt a new one and possibly an extra for good measure.
        Wouldnt like to expand on why?

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        • Desipura
          WOOF Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 4344

          #19
          Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

          Originally posted by hujsh
          Surely there are other ways to stop them?
          Now that is funny, well not funny but a real typo!

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #20
            Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

            13 goals would be great, hell i hope we beat them by 100plus like round 1 a few years back but i think 5 goals will be the margin

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

              Originally posted by lemmon
              Wouldnt like to expand on why?
              Sure.

              Richardson is one of the elite bigmen in the competion. He is a fantastic contested mark, a physical player and has got a massive engine. He runs all day and when he pushes forward we find him quite difficult to negate. He is a great pack mark and also good on a lead, he is a smart footballer and has destroyed us, time and time again.

              Everitt is a kid who has basically played games based on his potential and hasn't really stepped up to the mark thus far. He has shown that he is not a very accountable player and doesn't really like the body contest. If he was caught out against Richo in a marking duel he would get eaten alive. Everitt's decision making has shown to be quite suspect and that's too much of a risk against one of the best forwards of our time.

              A run with role against richo would a very defensive task and unfortunately Everitt just hasn't got a defensive side to his game. Sure, he looks great in space with the ball in his hands but he is not muture enough, strong enough or defensively minded enough to play on Richo.

              I know what you are saying in terms of hurting him going the other way, but the first objective must be to stop him, remember, this is a player that is renound for saving his best game of the year until he meets us.

              Hope that helps.

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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11261

                #22
                Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                Originally posted by TAMA
                Sure.

                Richardson is one of the elite bigmen in the competion. He is a fantastic contested mark, a physical player and has got a massive engine. He runs all day and when he pushes forward we find him quite difficult to negate. He is a great pack mark and also good on a lead, he is a smart footballer and has destroyed us, time and time again.

                Everitt is a kid who has basically played games based on his potential and hasn't really stepped up to the mark thus far. He has shown that he is not a very accountable player and doesn't really like the body contest. If he was caught out against Richo in a marking duel he would get eaten alive. Everitt's decision making has shown to be quite suspect and that's too much of a risk against one of the best forwards of our time.

                A run with role against richo would a very defensive task and unfortunately Everitt just hasn't got a defensive side to his game. Sure, he looks great in space with the ball in his hands but he is not muture enough, strong enough or defensively minded enough to play on Richo.

                I know what you are saying in terms of hurting him going the other way, but the first objective must be to stop him, remember, this is a player that is renound for saving his best game of the year until he meets us.

                Hope that helps.
                Agree 100% TAMA. I reckon the best players equipped to blunt Richo's effectiveness are the smaller players who have the capability to go with him, both from a speed and endurance perspective. The bigger slower players generally speaking don't have the engine nor the speed off the mark to go with Richo and generally get carved up as a result.
                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10144

                  #23
                  Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  Agree 100% TAMA. I reckon the best players equipped to blunt Richo's effectiveness are the smaller players who have the capability to go with him, both from a speed and endurance perspective. The bigger slower players generally speaking don't have the engine nor the speed off the mark to go with Richo and generally get carved up as a result.
                  Righto, explain Jimmy Bartel then?

                  I'd reckon we'd give Tommy the first crack at him. He's reasonably athletic, and has the body to boot.
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11261

                    #24
                    Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    Righto, explain Jimmy Bartel then?
                    What do you want me to explain?

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    I'd reckon we'd give Tommy the first crack at him. He's reasonably athletic, and has the body to boot.
                    He'd be a good choice primarily because of his athleticism and pace off the mark - his height is an added bonus.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10144

                      #25
                      Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      What do you want me to explain?
                      Sorry, read that back and it sounded a little vicious.

                      I was referring to the game last week, where Bartel and Richo went head to head, with Bartel getting smashed and shrugged off at the contests with the utmost of ease.
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11261

                        #26
                        Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        Sorry, read that back and it sounded a little vicious.

                        I was referring to the game last week, where Bartel and Richo went head to head, with Bartel getting smashed and shrugged off at the contests with the utmost of ease.
                        No dramas, I didn't watch the Geelong Richmond game last week so I had no idea that they went head-to-head. Bartel doesn't exactly cover the ground all that quickly so I'm actually very surprised he went to Richo, who would have Bartel well covered in pace off the mark.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                          As far as match ups go this is what I would like to see.

                          Picken vs Foley

                          Eade has backed Liam in for a second game and Foley is a simmilar hard, short, hard running player, also Richmond don't actually know how to block for each other, so Picken should get a clear run at a tagging role. I would love to see if he can back up and do it again.

                          Cross/Boyd vs Deledio
                          Cross and Boyd could roatate on Deledio who is a tough matchup due to his height, speed, spring strength. If they rest him forward then Addison or Morris might go to him.

                          Williams/Lake/The forward line vs Richo Man
                          Much as Eade suggesting this has made me think it won't actually happen (Ducks and Drakes perhaps??) I would like to see Williams start on Richo and try to run with him beyond the 50. If they rest Richo forward then Lake may take Richo and Williams could go to Lake's opponent (Shultz??).

                          The swap will only work if the defense can swap at a stoppage if we try to transition defence with the ball in play there is to much to go wrong unless we play a spare man back.

                          I would also like to see Brian/Tommygun try to counter-attack off the back line if Richarson tries to rest there, as Lake did on Barry Hall in last year's finals series. This may stop them feeling comfortable resting Richo in the forward line and he may need more bench time.

                          Also if we keep honoring the lead to our small fast forwards, Richo will not be effective playing the sweeper in defence, as he did a bit last year.

                          Thus we can have a whole ground anti-Richo approach designed to ruin his day (mostly unneccesary as Richmond ruin his day pretty well on their own).

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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6522

                            #28
                            Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                            Originally posted by TAMA
                            Sure.

                            Richardson is one of the elite bigmen in the competion. He is a fantastic contested mark, a physical player and has got a massive engine. He runs all day and when he pushes forward we find him quite difficult to negate. He is a great pack mark and also good on a lead, he is a smart footballer and has destroyed us, time and time again.

                            Everitt is a kid who has basically played games based on his potential and hasn't really stepped up to the mark thus far. He has shown that he is not a very accountable player and doesn't really like the body contest. If he was caught out against Richo in a marking duel he would get eaten alive. Everitt's decision making has shown to be quite suspect and that's too much of a risk against one of the best forwards of our time.

                            A run with role against richo would a very defensive task and unfortunately Everitt just hasn't got a defensive side to his game. Sure, he looks great in space with the ball in his hands but he is not muture enough, strong enough or defensively minded enough to play on Richo.

                            I know what you are saying in terms of hurting him going the other way, but the first objective must be to stop him, remember, this is a player that is renound for saving his best game of the year until he meets us.

                            Hope that helps.
                            I think we are looking at this too defensively, Waite carved up Richo in round one by zoning off and finding the ball himself. Too often coaches let Richo run around doing what he wants but the best way to counter him is to let him know that his opponent is going to find the ball himself and hurt him going forward, I think Tom lacks the footy brain to do this. Richo's skills are average and he isnt a creative user of the ball so he isnt going to hurt you with the footy in his hands. He is such a weapon because of his marking ability when theres a high kick into the backline and his running capability IMO he will have no influce playing on a wing if we refuse to bomb the ball in and spot up a target instead. When he does get the ball zone off him and make him do something with it instead off giving him the easy dish off.
                            IMO Everitts foot skills would put Richo to the sword more then Williams but in saying that I would still give Tommy first crack.

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14315

                              #29
                              Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              Who would Lake pick up when Richo is up the field? What happens to Williams when Richo goes forward?



                              From what I have seen of Picken he is more a midfield run with type rather than a small defensive backman. Plus I think Brown might be a bit to clever for a 2nd gamer.
                              If Richo goes up the ground, whoever replaces Richo if its abnother tall, if its a short let Lake back himself a bit more and maybe go up the ground too, or even just play that spare man in the backline.


                              I would have thought Harvey has more gut running and love for the footy than Brownie and as far as being too clever, Harvey would rate as good as Brownie in that department too i would have thought.
                              Bring back the biff

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                              • Remi Moses
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 14785

                                #30
                                Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                                Dogs by 24 points. Hard fought tussle,we have to make the most of their turnovers.Geelong didn't do that last week,they should have won that game Geelong were running in cement.

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