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Re: Roos on The Footy Show
They did nothing about their greatest player of all time. Just let him run his own race.CULTUREYankee Hotel Foxtrot, as another female member, I totaly agree with Magic Griffin and Ms Bulldog. Watching Simpson and Pratt on the footy show taking the rap, while members of the audience laughed and sniggered, made me feel really uncomfortable. They may have only been a rubber chicken and a frozen chicken, but the simulation of rape and violence is a very real expereince for many women in Australia (half of the incidents are never reported to police).
I do think that sometimes political correctness goes a bit far - but I can also remember as a teenager growing up in the 70s, it was the social view that if a woman got raped, it was because she shouldn't have been there (walking home, getting into a car with a male, being at a party etc etc), or she was dressed in too revealing clothes, or she was asking for it.
The responsibility for the rape was always on the victim never the perpetrator of the violence. I would like to think that society has moved a long way away since then, but unfortunately incidents like this just reinforce the old stereotypes about women. It has been really heartening for me to hear so many of the men on this forum speak out against it - well done guys
Finally, if North Melbourne as a club was genuine about stamping out violence and sexual assault, these players would not be playing this weekend. You really do have to admire Collingwood FC for taking the stand they did last year against Shaw and Didak.Comment
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Re: Roos on The Footy Show
Dont know if i would back Nth this week with this taking mind off game, Hawks might be lucky this happened as i think they might have been a big chance to be 0-3Bring back the biffComment
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Re: Roos on The Footy Show
Can the footy show actually comment after the Sam Newman and Caro stuff?Bring back the biffComment
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Re: Roos on The Footy Show
On the post about having kids and being responsible, does this make Fev look even more stupid?
He hass children but goes into the middle of the city with a dildo hanging out of his pants for all to see.
Whats his explanation when his kids do something and they say, "well look what you did!"Bring back the biffComment
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Re: Ross on The Footy Show
Hypocrisy, pure and simple.
They did very little about Sam. After his act he should have been shown the door, his continued presence represents the usual lip service to appropriate standards in such matters.
As for Shaw and Taylor I suspect they were trying to be controversial but were out of their depth given the issue they picked. Rather than attracting listeners they will have made sure that large numbers are turned away.[I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]Comment
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Re: Roos on The Footy Show
what on Earth does a rubber chicken have to do with child molesters, who are the scum of the earth? What those lowlifes do is COMPLETELY different, as it can and does actually happen. It is vile, repulsive and they deserve the full penalty available (and more). What those stupid football players did was a game. A stupid, childish game, but a game. All the symbolism people have attached is way over the top.
[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]Comment
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[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]Comment
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Re: Roos on The Footy Show
I tend to agree, it was a childish stupid thing they did, at 18 yeah we all probably did silly things, not condoning it but am surprised it was the older players at the club. what on Earth does a rubber chicken have to do with child molesters, who are the scum of the earth? What those lowlifes do is COMPLETELY different, as it can and does actually happen. It is vile, repulsive and they deserve the full penalty available (and more). What those stupid football players did was a game. A stupid, childish game, but a game. All the symbolism people have attached is way over the top.
And the symbolism some seem to find because they are looking for one.
Im sure the people involved didnt sit down and say oh lets make a video that symbolises this, this and this.
Some of it seems a bit like if you play a certain song backwards it means ... etc .
Just take it as a childish and stupid prank without trying to read other stuff into it.Bring back the biffComment
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Re: Roos on The Footy Show
You used toy guns as an example, which has about the same relevence as child molesters. what on Earth does a rubber chicken have to do with child molesters, who are the scum of the earth? What those lowlifes do is COMPLETELY different, as it can and does actually happen. It is vile, repulsive and they deserve the full penalty available (and more). What those stupid football players did was a game. A stupid, childish game, but a game. All the symbolism people have attached is way over the top.Comment
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Re: Roos on The Footy Show
But it's PRECISELY because they didn't think it through that the sybolism is disturbing. If they did it deliberately and consciously you could say they were taking the pi$$, but in this case they were just 'doing what they thought was funny' without much thought, which reveals an embedded attitude towards women in football (or North Melbourne, at least).
Isn't that the whole problem with this affair? The only people who don't think there's anything wrong with it are individuals so deeply embedded in footy culture that they can't see that it's not normal or acceptable behaviour in the rest of society. I can't think of anyone not involved in a boofhead sporting culture who would think that making a video like that is a 'harmless little prank'... these attitudes are so deeply etched into footy culture that we almost expect it of footballers -- what if politicians, or school principals, or a bunch of teachers were caught making such a video? That would never be tolerated and an inquiry into the 'culture' of teachers would be launched, but somehow when a bunch of footballers does it it's expected and excused?
I would suggest that footballers (and other celebrity sportspeople), with their prominence in society, their role model positions (and influence over children similar to that of teachers), and the vast leeway and privilege given to them by society, should not be a repository of the most backward attitudes in society.
Fair enough if you think too much media coverage has been given to this issue (I tend to agree), but if you think casual and careless misogyny and sexism is just at the level of a throwaway, 'harmless prank', and excusable because it was made by footballers rather than by more intelligent people, then I am equally and deeply offended by that assertion.Comment
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Re: Roos on The Footy Show
The perspective is - there are far worse things happening in the world, committed by real people against real people, for this to be ranked up there. If anyone wants to harbour anger towards those who get involved in real crimes against real people, I'll readily join the chorus of disapproval. As I've already said, I didn't think much of said video. Didn't laugh, wasn't interested, didn't actually care that much. Maybe my level of tolerance is greater than some. Those involved have copped their whack. I think we need to let it go.[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]Comment
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