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  • Bulldog Revolution
    Coaching Staff
    • Dec 2006
    • 3928

    Re: Changes Round 5

    Originally posted by dogs_r_barking
    I don't think we will win this week, we seem to struggle against Carlton, and with Pratt seriously ill in hospital, they will be playing for him.
    I'll be bitterly disappointed if we put forward another spineless performance against Carlton

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66812

      Re: Changes Round 5

      Eade says Murphy will play but Cooney is 50/50

      Also mentioned Grant and O'Keefe are possibles. No mention of Welsh.
      Last edited by Bornadog; 22-04-2009, 12:07 PM.
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      • The Bulldogs Bite
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 11269

        Re: Changes Round 5

        Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
        I'll be bitterly disappointed if we put forward another spineless performance against Carlton
        Same.

        No excuses.

        We're better than Carlton and have been for a while - it's about time we actually play some quality football and beat them.

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Eade says Murphy will play but Cooney is 50/50

        Also mentioned Grant and O'Keefe are possibles. No mention of Welsh.
        I find it strange Murphy is listed to play but Welsh isn't.

        Murphy's barely played ANY football this entire year. Very limited game time on the weekend and struggled v Melbourne in the pre-season.

        Hopefully Grant gets a gig though. I think he should too, if Eade was serious in the pre-season about playing him 10 or so games.
        W00F!

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        • dogman
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 135

          Re: Changes Round 5

          If Murphy does play, I doubt Grant will get a game as they are similar players. But I think Eade will pull Murphy out at the last minute. I think he is to underdone to play this important game. We can't afford to play him and have him on the bench for 50% of the game. I believe he needs a full game in the VFL first.

          I even heard on the radio that he wasn't even training with the main group today. Surely its one of those Eade comments, that are meant to get Carlton thinking about Murphy and not others like Johno and crew.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66812

            Re: Changes Round 5

            Originally posted by dogman
            If Murphy does play, I doubt Grant will get a game as they are similar players. But I think Eade will pull Murphy out at the last minute. I think he is to underdone to play this important game. We can't afford to play him and have him on the bench for 50% of the game. I believe he needs a full game in the VFL first.

            I even heard on the radio that he wasn't even training with the main group today. Surely its one of those Eade comments, that are meant to get Carlton thinking about Murphy and not others like Johno and crew.
            The bigger game is the week after so he needs to be ready for that one.
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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6932

              Re: Changes Round 5

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Why would we be dropping Tiller and not replacing him with a tallish defender?

              Carlton's forwardline will probably set-up something like the following:

              F: Betts, Fev, Cloke
              HF: Wiggins, Kreuzer, Houlihan

              Carlton will try and stretch us so we need to play 3 tallish defender's with back-up from Morris & Hargrave.
              Just a few things:
              -Cloke and/or Kreuzer will spend time in the ruck supporting Jacobs.

              -I would be happy for them to go with 3 tall forwards. I actually think Morris is our best match up for Fev, as Fev is really a conventional power forward. I think he relies more on his explosiveness, which suits Dale. It also frees up Lake to do his million marks from opposition kicks. Lake to take Cloke and Williams on Kreuzer.

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15472

                Re: Changes Round 5

                Originally posted by Rocco Jones

                -I would be happy for them to go with 3 tall forwards. I actually think Morris is our best match up for Fev, as Fev is really a conventional power forward. I think he relies more on his explosiveness, which suits Dale. It also frees up Lake to do his million marks from opposition kicks. Lake to take Cloke and Williams on Kreuzer.
                I think we all thought Morris would go to Fev in rd 17 last year, but Lake did a very good job up until a point late in the 3rd qtr when our midfield gave the Carlton midfield (Judd in particular) a free ride and served the ball on a platter to Fev.

                Will be interesting to see which way we go this time around.

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                • dogman
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 135

                  Re: Changes Round 5

                  I hope we don't get Fev back in form like last year. From memory he had a few shockers before he played us but he had a great game against us, especially last quarter. He then managed to finish off the year on a high.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Changes Round 5

                    Originally posted by dogman
                    I hope we don't get Fev back in form like last year. From memory he had a few shockers before he played us but he had a great game against us, especially last quarter. He then managed to finish off the year on a high.
                    I could have played ff against us in that last quarter and kicked goals. The game was won and lost in the midfield, when we stopped running, they killed us.

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                    • Rocco Jones
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6932

                      Re: Changes Round 5

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      I think we all thought Morris would go to Fev in rd 17 last year, but Lake did a very good job up until a point late in the 3rd qtr when our midfield gave the Carlton midfield (Judd in particular) a free ride and served the ball on a platter to Fev.

                      Will be interesting to see which way we go this time around.
                      Yep. When Williams/Morris are as good/nearly as good an option to play on a dangerous opponent as Lake I would prefer to have Lake freed up to exploit a weaker opponent. Callan coming into the side means we don't need Morris to play on Betts.

                      We always have to free up Shaggy has to play on small/mediums (preferably the former).

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                      • alwaysadog
                        Senior Player
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1436

                        Re: Changes Round 5

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Eade says Murphy will play but Cooney is 50/50

                        Also mentioned Grant and O'Keefe are possibles. No mention of Welsh.
                        Rocket wouldn't play mind games, would he?
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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44697

                          Re: Changes Round 5

                          Originally posted by alwaysadog
                          Rocket wouldn't play mind games, would he?
                          I actually think everything he says with regards to team selection or injuries is a bluff.
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                          • Sockeye Salmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6365

                            Re: Changes Round 5

                            Originally posted by dogman
                            If Murphy does play, I doubt Grant will get a game as they are similar players. But I think Eade will pull Murphy out at the last minute. I think he is to underdone to play this important game. We can't afford to play him and have him on the bench for 50% of the game. I believe he needs a full game in the VFL first.

                            I even heard on the radio that he wasn't even training with the main group today. Surely its one of those Eade comments, that are meant to get Carlton thinking about Murphy and not others like Johno and crew.
                            The problem with that theory is that we need to get game time into Murphy. If he doesn't play with us then he'll have to play with Willi on Saturday and that might be a bit of a giveaway.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44697

                              Re: Changes Round 5

                              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                              The problem with that theory is that we need to get game time into Murphy. If he doesn't play with us then he'll have to play with Willi on Saturday and that might be a bit of a giveaway.
                              Willy is playing on Sunday this week I think at the same time as well
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                              • Sockeye Salmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6365

                                Re: Changes Round 5

                                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                                Just a few things:
                                -Cloke and/or Kreuzer will spend time in the ruck supporting Jacobs.

                                -I would be happy for them to go with 3 tall forwards. I actually think Morris is our best match up for Fev, as Fev is really a conventional power forward. I think he relies more on his explosiveness, which suits Dale. It also frees up Lake to do his million marks from opposition kicks. Lake to take Cloke and Williams on Kreuzer.
                                They would never let Lake take Cloke, I'd try it for sure, but they will either take Cloke off the ground or tell him to stand about 8 rows deep into the crowd in the forward pocket and make sure Lake goes with him.

                                Morris might have to go to Wiggins.

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