IF - Pavlich was available?

[Bornadog]

http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/go-east-young-man/2009/04/21/1240079672290.html

Article in The Age today suggests that Pavlich may think about leaving the Dockers and he may be a perfect fit for either the Cats or Dogs.

If he was available, would you want him and what would you be willing to give up?

[Missing-Dog]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

Would I like to have Pavlich in our side? Yes.

Who would I give up? Wade Skipper and Cameron Wight. But, who would the Dockers want is the question. I'm guessing a hard running skilled mid-fielder type would be high on their shopping list. I am not prepared to lose any of ours.

[Bornadog]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

Would I like to have Pavlich in our side? Yes.

Who would I give up? Wade Skipper and Cameron Wight. But, who would the Dockers want is the question. I'm guessing a hard running skilled mid-fielder type would be high on their shopping list. I am not prepared to lose any of ours.

To get some one good you have to give up someone good, plus maybe draft picks?.

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

You can't get something for nothing...but then there was the Jason Akermanis trade

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

Hrmm I always believed Pavlich could be much better at any other club..

But hes 28 at the end of the year..

I'd give up Wight & Skipper too...but draft pick wise I dont think id want us giving anything before Pick 25-30

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

Would I like to have Pavlich in our side? Yes.

Who would I give up? Wade Skipper and Cameron Wight.

The trade bait really have to be realistic. Neither of those would garner any interest from Freo. To lose Pavlich, they would want a top quality player (perhaps 2 good players) plus a 1st round draft pick.

Either Giansiracusa and Murphy are two players I'd be prepared to lose for Pavlich.

[azabob]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

The trade bait really have to be realistic. Neither of those would garner any interest from Freo. To lose Pavlich, they would want a top quality player (perhaps 2 good players) plus a 1st round draft pick.

Either Giansiracusa and Murphy are two players I'd be prepared to lose for Pavlich.

If you were to get Pavlich you would want to play him from the goal square and by trading Murphy who would do the hard running and presenting up the ground?
I'd prefer to trade a midfield type rather than a hard working forward.

[Cyberdoggie]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

We have 1 extremely rare and almost extinct Bald Eagle to trade.

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

If you were to get Pavlich you would want to play him from the goal square and by trading Murphy who would do the hard running and presenting up the ground?
I'd prefer to trade a midfield type rather than a hard working forward.

Just saying that the likes of Wight or Skipper being offered up would generate laughter as opposed to a trade like this. I brought Murphy and Gia up because I think losing one of them would not be that detrimental if gaining Pavlich. Neither of them (for mine) are consistent enough and losing one of them (plus a draft pick presumably) would be well worth it if Pavlich in red, white and blue was the end result.

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

The untested but talented palyers such as Guy O'Keefe or Sam Reid and a draft pick would be the only deal, in my opinion that would make both sides happy. Pavlich in the bulldogs forward line would lead to a Premiership no doubt about it.

[Axe Man]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

We would be crazy not to have a crack at Pav whilst we are in the so called premiership window. He would top our side off perfectly and provide at least 3 years of service. Realistically we would probably have to offer at least a first round draft pick and a quality player to get it over the line as plenty of other clubs will be pushing hard for his services as well. Geelong gave up picks 12 and 14 I think for Ottens and he turned out to be crucial in their premiership side.

With Aka gone it will free up room in the salary cap, which is another plus.

In the end it's probably highly unlikely to eventuate but this is a far more attractive proposition to the key forwards we are normally associated with every trade period (Hall, Robertson, Adam Campbell, etc).

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

We would be crazy not to have a crack at Pav whilst we are in the so called premiership window. He would top our side off perfectly and provide at least 3 years of service. Realistically we would probably have to offer at least a first round draft pick and a quality player to get it over the line as plenty of other clubs will be pushing hard for his services as well. Geelong gave up picks 12 and 14 I think for Ottens and he turned out to be crucial in their premiership side.

With Aka gone it will free up room in the salary cap, which is another plus.

In the end it's probably highly unlikely to eventuate but this is a far more attractive proposition to the key forwards we are normally associated with every trade period (Hall, Robertson, Adam Campbell, etc).

Great post, agree completely.

[Bornadog]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

We would be crazy not to have a crack at Pav whilst we are in the so called premiership window. He would top our side off perfectly and provide at least 3 years of service. Realistically we would probably have to offer at least a first round draft pick and a quality player to get it over the line as plenty of other clubs will be pushing hard for his services as well. Geelong gave up picks 12 and 14 I think for Ottens and he turned out to be crucial in their premiership side.

With Aka gone it will free up room in the salary cap, which is another plus.

In the end it's probably highly unlikely to eventuate but this is a far more attractive proposition to the key forwards we are normally associated with every trade period (Hall, Robertson, Adam Campbell, etc).

Totally agree, I think we would have to give up some around the 21 to 25 year old age group, maybe even a Hill who is from WA. I know people will scream and yell about that, but the premiership window is open for us and a big forward like Pavlich would really top us off. We could even win a couple of premierships.

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

Okay then apart from Cooney, Griffen, Tom Williams, Bob Murphy, Shaun Higgens and Brian Lake who are the tradeables? I'm assuming the package deal would be an established/fringe player who jus can't get an opportunity and a first round draft pick.

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

I've sat around for years looking at Pavlich as the dream trade for the Dogs. With a KPF of that quality in the team we would be genuine premiership favourites for a long time. He would also be perfect for the development of the next generation of key forwards (there's a reason why sides with key forwards tend to develop others, while those without one, like the Dogs, can't seem to get any of their kids to the required standard.. success breeds success, and we don't have any key forward role models).

At only 27, Pav has a good 5-6 years left and we would be negligent not to chase this trade with everything possible. I would be willing to give up almost anything for this trade, as it really is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to set this club up for the next two decades. I would argue he would be at least as valuable to the Dogs as Judd has been for Carlton.

First round draft pick (we have a good stock of youngsters from the last couple of drafts) + one first team player (no names) + one youngster/fringe player that fits Freo's requirements, or two draft picks and a mid-line player.

If Pav was determined to leave, it would strengthen our trading postion, and may be able to hang on to the first round pick, give up a bag of second and third round picks + a mid-line/young WA player. Freo's best strategy before GC17 come in is to stock up on youngsters via the draft anyway.

We really should be throwing everything we have at this possibility, and knowing David Smorgon, Campbell Rose and Rodney Eade, I know we will be.