Josh Hill - who has he overtaken?

[ledge]

Re: Josh Hill - who has he overtaken?

Hill now impresses me with his chasing as well as his floating for a mark in the forward line.

Credit to Eade for letting him do that, nowadays a lot of coaches dont want players drifting in as it crowds the forward line but Hill is perfect for this job as he seems to be very adept at sneaking away from his opponent and being the third man in to take a grab.

I think he looks lazy at times but it also has its upshots as his opposition player thinks he is lazy,not interested and runs off him and thats when Hill takes over.

Hill Obviously is very light on his feet to as he tends to get tackles in and players dont even hear him coming.
I think we all want him to put on a couple more kilos but i wouldnt want too much on him, as it might be more a hindrance against his sneakiness and his abillity to float in.

[Ozza]

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When Hill is near the ball - things happen. Its great to have a player like him in the side.

2 very important goals to snuff out a potential crows comeback - and possibly spared us all some nervy moments.

[Remi Moses]

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Just like nearly all the aboriginal boys he seems to have more skill and composure than most. Harbrow is the same with a little more harder edge.

[always right]

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Fair call, but I wouldn't have Hahn in front of him (1 good game only), Hudson would definately be, I'm well off the Cross bandwagon as Cross is almost a liability in the side now that teams seemed to have worked out his disposal by foot is terrible.

Overall that's 12th at worst. That's if we don't mark Aker down for getting suspended.

After Crossy's game yesterday are you still of the opinion he's a liability?

Back on Hill....I love him up forward. Now that Johnno's overhead marking is not the strength it once was, we need someone like Hill who can take a big grab.

[LostDoggy]

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After Crossy's game yesterday are you still of the opinion he's a liability?

He was much better in the second half of the game. In the second quarter there was a piece of play which typified why he is being critisized lately. He was inside 50 running into an open goal and handballed to Murph who missed. If he is going to be scared of kicking the ball then he is a liability.

[boydogs]

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He was much better in the second half of the game. In the second quarter there was a piece of play which typified why he is being critisized lately. He was inside 50 running into an open goal and handballed to Murph who missed. If he is going to be scared of kicking the ball then he is a liability.

I know what you are saying and I was thinking this when he went to give it off, but I don't think it was a hospital handpass, and would much rather Murphy from 40 than Cross from 45 - Scott West would have done the same thing

[Mofra]

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After Crossy's game yesterday are you still of the opinion he's a liability?

Back on Hill....I love him up forward. Now that Johnno's overhead marking is not the strength it once was, we need someone like Hill who can take a big grab.

Cross is improving, but he did have a terrible patch to start the year off.

He needs to understand that leadership is more than just being the best trainer - you need to take responsibility, and that includes taking the space & taking a shot when it's your turn to. I'd rather him see him kick a behind than stop, prop and handball to someone in a similar spot, under as much pressure.

[Bornadog]

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Cross is improving, but he did have a terrible patch to start the year off.

He needs to understand that leadership is more than just being the best trainer - you need to take responsibility, and that includes taking the space & taking a shot when it's your turn to. I'd rather him see him kick a behind than stop, prop and handball to someone in a similar spot, under as much pressure.

Cross did it again on Sunday, running into an open goal, decided he wouldn't have a shot and handballed to Cooney (who missed). Really, he should have had a shot himself.

[Missing Dog]

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Back on Hill the little tap onto BJ was exellent needs a little bit ofmongrel but to say i like him would be an understatement.

[LostDoggy]

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On who Josh Hill has overtaken, I was just thinking about his draft position (61!!!) and wondering who he has overtaken from his own draft. I would say the current top 6 from his draft (other than Hilly) would be (in draft order):

Gibbs (pick 1)
Selwood (7)
Urquhart (21)
Tippett (32)
Alwyn Davey (36)
Krakouer (39)

Andrejs Everitt and Jack Riewoldt are also from this draft but I don't think they've done enough as regular AFL players to warrant comparison yet...

Who would he be ahead of in this group? I would put Josh up with Selwood and Gibbs as the top 3 from that draft up to this point in time, ahead of Gibbs (with Selwood way out in front at the moment).

It's amazing how draft order seldom has anything to do with how good you end up being -- a lot of gems in rounds 2 and 3 of drafts and many, many duds go top 10.

[Mofra]

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He sits comfortably with Davey & Krakour, I'd still have him behind the top 4 you mentioned. I'd probably slip Jack Riewoldt 5th behind behind Tippett though, nice set of hands and often cops the no 1 opposition defender which is a massive effort for a KPP so young.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I'd have Hill third or fourth at the moment.

Tippet has shown a bit and was very good against us on the weekend, but arguably Hill has been more impressive and consistent.

Selwood is a long way in front, Gibbs is a clear second.

I'd have Hill on par with Tippet though.

Davey has been good but his disposal isn't great, particularly his kicking for goal.

Krakouer looks very impressive this season and if he can maintain his form for this year/next, then he's going to be right up there too.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Josh Hill - who has he overtaken?

I'd have Hill third or fourth at the moment.

Tippet has shown a bit and was very good against us on the weekend, but arguably Hill has been more impressive and consistent.

Selwood is a long way in front, Gibbs is a clear second.

I'd have Hill on par with Tippet though.

Davey has been good but his disposal isn't great, particularly his kicking for goal.

Krakouer looks very impressive this season and if he can maintain his form for this year/next, then he's going to be right up there too.

Not too sure about this. The 2006 draft is a fairly strong one, and there are a lot of good players who have come out of it. Hill has been a good contributor, and has stepped up again this year, but I'd be very happy with any of the below.

Gibbs
Leuenberger
Boak
Selwood
Riewoldt
Urquhart
Tippett
Davey
Krakouer
Westhoff

All these guys have played a lot of good games for their clubs. Frawley and a few others also look like good players for the future.

All in all though, for a player picked at 61, he's matched it with a lot of his more highly rated colleagues, at least to this stage of their young careers.

Interesting to see what happens over the next few years as a few more of the KP players from that draft grow into their bodies and hopefully overcome their injuries.