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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    What's going on doggies?

    Okay, St.Kilda actually look pretty good- but where is our much vaunted midfield?
    Griffen, Cooney virtually no influence?
    Forward line structure non-existent. Sounds from the radio that there's never anyone except for Hill in the forward line.
    Poor coaching, injuries, what?
    Spin on the WA travel stuff, breaks between games?

    Playing with no confidence at all......
    Can we come back from this sort of stuff, and will we make the eight?
  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6440

    #2
    Re: What's going on doggies?

    You can add shit tackling to your list.
    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: What's going on doggies?

      Not impressed. Its times like today that all I can see when we play is old players who are too slow or young kids who look too skinny!

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      • Dry Rot
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6440

        #4
        Re: What's going on doggies?

        Some of us were really concerned about what we saw in the pre-season, and some us questioned whether our dwarf forwardline would work against new zones and in pressure games or against top sides or in the finals.

        Maybe we were right.
        The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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        • Scorlibo
          Coaching Staff
          • Oct 2007
          • 3075

          #5
          Re: What's going on doggies?

          We just look lost with our gameplan, not knowing what to do in the appropriate situations and a lot of the time its not to do with the ball carrier, it's to do with the lack of support, players are running, handballing, then stopping when they MUST keep on running to provide further support.
          'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #6
            Re: What's going on doggies?

            Originally posted by timbo
            Okay, St.Kilda actually look pretty good- but where is our much vaunted midfield?
            Griffen, Cooney virtually no influence?
            Forward line structure non-existent. Sounds from the radio that there's never anyone except for Hill in the forward line.
            Poor coaching, injuries, what?
            Spin on the WA travel stuff, breaks between games?

            Playing with no confidence at all......
            Can we come back from this sort of stuff, and will we make the eight?
            And pathetic umpiring!
            That certainly didn't help us!!

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            • The Pie Man
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2008
              • 3498

              #7
              Re: What's going on doggies?

              Originally posted by Dry Rot
              Some of us were really concerned about what we saw in the pre-season, and some us questioned whether our dwarf forwardline would work against new zones and in pressure games or against top sides or in the finals.

              Maybe we were right.
              When a zone is employed against us, it makes Docklands a tight/tough place to play.

              Looking at our wins so far..

              * We used the space of Subi well and sweated on Freo errors, of which there were plenty
              * Toughed it out vs North, found some space late on the flanks of the G
              * Played a Richmond team at a nadir with their confidence

              Disappointing vs West Coast but @ 3-1 it was acceptable. Last week was pretty bad, and tonight I thought we'd lose by 4 goals without Williams......we lost by 3.10.

              Bit of work to do. We may welcome playing on a bigger ground like AAMI next week. I hope the next time we play St Kilda Williams plays on Reiwoldt
              Last edited by The Pie Man; 03-05-2009, 07:37 PM. Reason: Spelling
              Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: What's going on doggies?

                I just can't believe the number of turn overs (usually from errant handballs). I realise that St Kilda has been applying a lot of pressure this season, but I honestly thought that we might be able to stand up to it to some degree (thank god for Reiwoldt's poor kicking!). There's some good signs from our "kids", but the senior players really need to step it up. We look so flat at the moment.

                Hoping we play well next round against Adelaide. It's not very often that I get to see my boys play so it would be nice to come away with a win.

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                • Missing-Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3102

                  #9
                  Re: What's going on doggies?

                  Playing with no Spirit! Wheres the bulldog BITE

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                  • Rocket Science
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4851

                    #10
                    Re: What's going on doggies?

                    Speaking of turnovers, I understand we conceded a league-high 28 goals as a result of turnovers over the past fortnight. Not sure tonight's proceedings arrested that pattern.
                    BORDERLINE FLYING

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44399

                      #11
                      Re: What's going on doggies?

                      Originally posted by The Pie Man
                      When a zone is employed against us, it makes Docklands a tight/tough place to play.

                      Looking at our wins so far..

                      * We used the space of Subi well and sweated on Freo errors, of which there were plenty
                      * Toughed it out vs North, found some space late on the flanks of the G
                      * Played a Richmond team at a nadir with their confidence

                      Disappointing vs West Coast but @ 3-1 it was acceptable. Last week was pretty bad, and tonight I thought we'd lose by 4 goals without Williams......we lost by 3.10.
                      That's the thing I most noticed today. Both teams were employing zones against each other but the Saints one was much more effective.

                      Our skill errors are a concern but I'd also have that our forward line is functioning correctly either. Minson did some OK things but it isn't straightening us up at all.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • The Pie Man
                        Coaching Staff
                        • May 2008
                        • 3498

                        #12
                        Re: What's going on doggies?

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        That's the thing I most noticed today. Both teams were employing zones against each other but the Saints one was much more effective.

                        Our skill errors are a concern but I'd also have that our forward line is functioning correctly either. Minson did some OK things but it isn't straightening us up at all.
                        Minson actually did the opposite today, and strangely enough pretty well, roving a rare Ray spill for a goal and his run on Hayes in the last was very amusing.

                        Can we perhaps put Lake under hypnosis to convince him he can slot a goal from a set shot? Eade's rub of the eyes following it said enough. RS' avatar again came to mind
                        Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                        • BulldogBelle
                          WOOF Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 5284

                          #13
                          Re: What's going on doggies?

                          Originally posted by The Pie Man
                          Minson actually did the opposite today, and strangely enough pretty well, roving a rare Ray spill for a goal and his run on Hayes in the last was very amusing.
                          Yes, that was good - I enjoyed that passage of play. Hopefully, that will give Minno some added confidence when he sees that passage of play again - he looked very good doing that.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #14
                            Re: What's going on doggies?

                            Are we believing our own bullshit about being bigger, stronger, better etc and expecting things.

                            Our wins are only to bottom 2009 6 sides. Big issues. Something has got to turn around. I know we are aiming to peak at a certain time of the year, but you need to win more than you loose for that to happen. I'm not on the panic button, but i'm worried for sure.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44399

                              #15
                              Re: What's going on doggies?

                              Originally posted by 42-C-3
                              Are we believing our own bullshit about being bigger, stronger, better etc and expecting things.

                              Our wins are only to bottom 2009 6 sides. Big issues. Something has got to turn around. I know we are aiming to peak at a certain time of the year, but you need to win more than you loose for that to happen. I'm not on the panic button, but i'm worried for sure.
                              When I first read this I wasn't sure but upon some reflection there might be something to it. All season long we were supposed to be flying, best summer etc etc and the new fitness guy performing miracles. Now I don't doubt that they did have a great summer but I wonder if the 3 wins upon the upbeat vibe around the place has bred some complacency.
                              Even the games we won we haven't been that impressive.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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