Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

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  • comrade
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    • Jun 2008
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    Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

    2008 Results
    Rd 15. Western Bulldogs (95) dftd Melbourne (64)
    Rd 2. Melbourne (66) dftd by Western Bulldogs (161)

    2009 Form
    Melbourne 1 wins 6 losses
    Western Bulldogs 4 wins 3 losses

    Players under the Pump
    Western Bulldogs – Andrejs Everitt, Ben Hudson,
    Melbourne – Hard to judge as there isn’t any real pressure that comes with expectation.

    Players under consideration
    Western Bulldogs - Tim Callan, Callan Ward, Wayde Skipper
    Melbourne – Michael Newton, Daniel Bell, Kyle Cheney

    Summary – A chance for the Bulldogs to entrench themselves in the top 4 against an improving Melbourne.

    Key Match-ups

    Dale Morris vs Russel Robertson
    Robertson is up and running after recovering from a horrific archilles tendon injury. Dale’s closing speed will help shut down Robertson on the lead, and he’ll take heart in the fact that he’s not having to punch above his weight like last week against St Nick. Robertson has troubled us at times but I’m confident Dale will do what he does best – make his opponent beg for mercy

    Aaron Davey vs Jarrod Harbrow
    Harbrow is a good match up for The Flash, as he is quick enough to stay with him and can follow him into the midfield. Davey will also have to respect Harbrow’s attacking instincts, as we all know he loves to move the ball forward by dodging and weaving. If Davey gets on top I’d stick Picken in his back pocket and see if he enjoys the attention. If I recall correctly, Callan did a number on Davey last year and he didn’t take it well at all.

    Cale Morton vs Daniel Cross
    Cale Morton is averaging 25 possessions, is tall and if he created a tag team with Ayce Cordy the combined weight would barely tip 100kg. He’s one of Melbourne’s prime movers and we need to curb his influence in linking up from the half back line/wing. Crossy played himself into some form last week, throwing himself into packs and taking some very nice overhead marks. Put him head to head with Morton and make the kid worry about stopping Crossy, rather than being a weapon himself.

    Lynden Dunn vs Adam Cooney
    Last time out, Dunn tagged Cooney in a big way and really curbed his influence. With Cooney showing some ripping form last week, I expect a tough day at the office for little Lynden. I also expect Griffen to have a big one as Melbourne will be forced to put in time and resources into stopping Coon, hopefully freeing up Griff.

    Brad Miller vs Tom Williams
    Someone mentioned that Miller is playing like a poor man’s Riewoldt – that’s almost like comparing Bill Gates to a bum living under a bridge – but I understand the analogy. After getting taught a lesson by Taylor Walker last week, I expect Williams to have a chance at redemption by getting an early crack at Miller at some stage. Miller is dangerous because he does work hard and is a good size, but he doesn’t have a lot of tricks. That’s what tends to worry Tommy – the forwards who are too clever and outsmart him. Bloody rugby background!

    Who else do the Melbourne have to watch?
    Aker only needs a dozen possessions to split open a game, Murphy is dancing and dazzling again and Josh Hill is like a ghost, floating in front of packs.

    Also, dare I say it – Eagleton could be a game breaker if his kicking boot is on and he’s prepared to run hard into dangerous positions like last week.

    The Verdict
    Wins are like gold this year, with a log jammed ladder indicating how even it is this year.

    If the Dogs are to be considered real contenders we should win this in a canter, playing tough and skilled football.

    But – Melbourne are definitely not the rabble they were last year. With some decent youngsters coming through and an improved appetite for the contest, you would imagine Rocket will be drilling into the boys that a win should not be taken as a given.

    Dogs by 45 points after breaking open the game after half time.
    Last edited by comrade; 13-05-2009, 09:48 PM.
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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11277

    #2
    Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

    Excellent summary Comrade. I've been impressed with what Melbourne are trying to achieve and they are starting to piece things together slowly for a sustained tilt at long term success down the track.

    Do you think and real tough and nasty defensive-oriented hard-arse like Picken would be a better match-up for Davey? Davey has previous form in not being able to handle these types at all, and he is by far their most offensive weapon this season. Picken has shown good form on the speedsters already with great shut-down jobs performed on Harvey, Deledio and McLeod already this season. On paper Harbrow might appear to be a better match-up but I fear he might not be quite as close-checking as Picken would be.

    Brad Miller might be a poor man's Riewoldt, but if anyone has seen Brad's better half, he leaves Riewoldt for dead in this area:
    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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    • hujsh
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      • Nov 2007
      • 11849

      #3
      Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

      Originally posted by comrade

      Aaron Davey vs Jarrod Harbrow
      Harbrow is a good match up for The Flash, as he is quick enough to stay with him and can follow him into the midfield. Davey will also have to respect Harbrow’s attacking instincts, as we all know he loves to move the ball forward by dodging and weaving. If Davey gets on top I’d stick Picken in his back pocket and see if he enjoys the attention. If I recall correctly, Callan did a number on Davey last year and he didn’t take it well at all.
      I think he may have cracked the shits when shut down by Campbell Brown 2-3 years ago.
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • comrade
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        • Jun 2008
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        Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

        Originally posted by Sedat
        Do you think and real tough and nasty defensive-oriented hard-arse like Picken would be a better match-up for Davey? Davey has previous form in not being able to handle these types at all, and he is by far their most offensive weapon this season. Picken has shown good form on the speedsters already with great shut-down jobs performed on Harvey, Deledio and McLeod already this season. On paper Harbrow might appear to be a better match-up but I fear he might not be quite as close-checking as Picken would be.
        I think that's the beauty of having a player like Harbrow developing a defensive aspect to his game - it gives Rocket the option of switching him and Picken depending on how match ups are working during the game.

        Picken might actually get first crack at Davey in an effort to deflate him nice and early. As you said, he has form when it comes to struggling with a hard, niggly tag. My only concern is that he is in career best form and could have too many tricks for Picken at this stage, but you could've assumed the same thing with Harvey, Deledio, McLeod etc.

        Originally posted by Sedat
        Brad Miller might be a poor man's Riewoldt, but if anyone has seen Brad's better half, he leaves Riewoldt for dead in this area:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb1-fh8JJow
        If footballing skill was determined by the attractiveness of your better half, Brad Miller would be a multiple Brownlow medallist, and future Hall of Famer.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • boydogs
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          • Apr 2009
          • 5844

          #5
          Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

          I worry about playing Williams against smaller players - he is 101 kgs, which makes him not as quick off the mark to counter leads. Last week a prime example. And what do we do with Lake? Forward? May be a week to rest Tommy.
          If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

          Formerly gogriff

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          • LostDoggy
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            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #6
            Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

            Originally posted by Sedat
            Excellent summary Comrade. I've been impressed with what Melbourne are trying to achieve and they are starting to piece things together slowly for a sustained tilt at long term success down the track.

            Do you think and real tough and nasty defensive-oriented hard-arse like Picken would be a better match-up for Davey? Davey has previous form in not being able to handle these types at all, and he is by far their most offensive weapon this season. Picken has shown good form on the speedsters already with great shut-down jobs performed on Harvey, Deledio and McLeod already this season. On paper Harbrow might appear to be a better match-up but I fear he might not be quite as close-checking as Picken would be.

            Brad Miller might be a poor man's Riewoldt, but if anyone has seen Brad's better half, he leaves Riewoldt for dead in this area:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb1-fh8JJow
            Pia's an old friend actually, we go way back -- she and Rody Vargas grew up in the same block. It's actually funny seeing her in ads and on billboards when she was the Pepsi girl a few years back.

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            • Mantis
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              • Apr 2007
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              Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

              Originally posted by gogriff
              I worry about playing Williams against smaller players - he is 101 kgs, which makes him not as quick off the mark to counter leads. Last week a prime example. And what do we do with Lake? Forward? May be a week to rest Tommy.
              I wouldn't have thought so, we need to play him as much as we can to build up his experience & confidence.

              I haven't seen much of Melb this year, but would be intersted to know from those who have what type of role Davey is playing? He seems to be picking up a lot of touches so I suspect he is spending more time in the midfield.

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              • Sedat
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                • Sep 2007
                • 11277

                #8
                Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

                Originally posted by Mantis
                I wouldn't have thought so, we need to play him as much as we can to build up his experience & confidence.

                I haven't seen much of Melb this year, but would be intersted to know from those who have what type of role Davey is playing? He seems to be picking up a lot of touches so I suspect he is spending more time in the midfield.
                Davey has been their defensive playmaker off half back this season (their 'Gilbee' if you will), and has been used as much as possible as their outlet option transitioning from defence into attack. He would be close to leading their B&F at the moment so he needs plenty of work put into him this week.
                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                • Sedat
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                  • Sep 2007
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                  Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

                  Originally posted by Lantern
                  Pia's an old friend actually, we go way back -- she and Rody Vargas grew up in the same block. It's actually funny seeing her in ads and on billboards when she was the Pepsi girl a few years back.
                  I have to say she is quite stunning and has a very natural, effortless beauty. Brad's found a keeper no doubt about that.
                  "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                  • Mantis
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                    • Apr 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

                    Originally posted by Sedat
                    Davey has been their defensive playmaker off half back this season (their 'Gilbee' if you will), and has been used as much as possible as their outlet option transitioning from defence into attack. He would be close to leading their B&F at the moment so he needs plenty of work put into him this week.
                    Who do you think would be up to the task? Possibly Picken.

                    BTW good work on the preview comrade.

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
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                      #11
                      Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      Who do you think would be up to the task? Possibly Picken.
                      Picken would be my first choice. Davey can't stand the really close attention, Picken has the work ethic and the tank to go with Davey all day, and he also has shown that he can handle the faster outside mids with aplomb. Much like his role in shutting out McLeod's creativity and effectiveness off half back on Sunday, Picken could be entrusted to do a similar role on a similar player this week. Harbrow is a good 2nd option to have on hand if needed.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • LostDoggy
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                        • Jan 2007
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                        #12
                        Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        I have to say she is quite stunning and has a very natural, effortless beauty. Brad's found a keeper no doubt about that.
                        More importantly though, she's actually a lovely person. Kind, funny, humble, no airs about her at all. You know, I didn't put two and two together with Brad (never realised he was the same Brad Miller that played for Melbourne!) until relatively recently - tell you what, he looks like a model himself, so I always assumed he was someone she knew from work (never asked him what he did)! Their kids are lovely too.

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                        • LostDoggy
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                          • Jan 2007
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                          #13
                          Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Picken would be my first choice. Davey can't stand the really close attention, Picken has the work ethic and the tank to go with Davey all day, and he also has shown that he can handle the faster outside mids with aplomb. Much like his role in shutting out McLeod's creativity and effectiveness off half back on Sunday, Picken could be entrusted to do a similar role on a similar player this week. Harbrow is a good 2nd option to have on hand if needed.
                          Picken is in the team for precisely this job, isn't he? I would be hard pressed to see who else he would go to if he didn't have first crack at Davey.

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                          • Mofra
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                            • Dec 2006
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                            #14
                            Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            Players under consideration
                            Western Bulldogs - Tim Callan, Callan Ward, Wayde Skipper
                            Excellent summary comrade, just wondering what the chance of Higgins retuirning to the side is now that his groin appears to be healing well?

                            If he does, who goes out of the side?
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • The Coon Dog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7579

                              #15
                              Re: Round 8 Preview – Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs AKA THE '54 GRAND FINAL REMATCH

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              Excellent summary comrade, just wondering what the chance of Higgins retuirning to the side is now that his groin appears to be healing well?

                              If he does, who goes out of the side?
                              Sure Mof? Yesterday it was felt he'd miss as a precaution.

                              Higgins set to miss as Dogs exercise caution.

                              If Higgins doesn't come up, I can't see a need for change.
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