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  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6471

    #1

    Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

    Anyone see their gripping win vs the Cats? How do match up against them?
    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45520

    #2
    Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

    Originally posted by Dry Rot
    Anyone see their gripping win vs the Cats? How do match up against them?

    The are very good in contested positions and have a challenging forward line to counter.
    Their skill level can hurt them in a big way though.
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    • dog town
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2007
      • 1925

      #3
      Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

      They will fancy themselves against us. They will get numbers behind the ball and put alot of pressure on us trying to come forward. They are pretty good in close and are starting to put together a very dangerous team when they are on song. They run in numbers through the middle with lots of handball and have good targets in Williams , Franklin , Boyle and co. Not sure what the go is with Croad and whether he will be back. Hope to god we dont take them lightly because we will get touched up if we do.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45520

        #4
        Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

        Originally posted by dog town
        They will fancy themselves against us. They will get numbers behind the ball and put alot of pressure on us trying to come forward. They are pretty good in close and are starting to put together a very dangerous team when they are on song. They run in numbers through the middle with lots of handball and have good targets in Williams , Franklin , Boyle and co. Not sure what the go is with Croad and whether he will be back. Hope to god we dont take them lightly because we will get touched up if we do.
        The thing is about the Hawks you can be 4 goals up on them in the last quarter and they score so quickly it is never really safe for us. I don't like the style they play but it can be effective against us.

        Who would you consider matching up on Franklin, Roughead and Williams DT?
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        • Bulldog Revolution
          Coaching Staff
          • Dec 2006
          • 3933

          #5
          Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

          I watched them in the opening round and was pretty impressed, they have many hard working foot soldiers, a lot of who are underrated (Sewell, McGlynn, Boyle) and some developing young runners and obviously they have an enormous number of left footers in Franklin, Guerra, Dixon, Young, Lewis, Hodge

          I think we should have a touch too much midfield class and depth for them, but that said we are missing a few and they will certainly give it a great crack and fancy their chances

          I know Harris has played on Williams before but I wonder if that would again be the case or Morris, - Roughead would seem to be a TWilliams, or CWight prospect and Franklin maybe a Hargraves matchup, although again Morris might be an option there.

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          • Go_Dogs
            Hall of Fame
            • Jan 2007
            • 10251

            #6
            Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

            I think after their game today, they'll be tired and we'll expose them for pace and skill. Lance Franklin, Sam Mitchell and Luke Hodge are the 3 players that I think we really need to look out for.

            Would Morris go to Williams do you think?

            I'd like to see Tommy Gun play again, and hopefully Akermanis will be ready to go too.
            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45520

              #7
              Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

              Originally posted by McMahon#23
              I think after their game today, they'll be tired and we'll expose them for pace and skill. Lance Franklin, Sam Mitchell and Luke Hodge are the 3 players that I think we really need to look out for.

              Would Morris go to Williams do you think?

              I'd like to see Tommy Gun play again, and hopefully Akermanis will be ready to go too.

              I think Morris is an ideal match-up for Mark Williams.
              Would Tom Williams or cam Wight be good candidates for Franklin?

              This would leave Harris for Roughhead
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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10251

                #8
                Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

                Either or I think, depends on how big an influence Lance is having. Wight being a bit more experienced would be a good option, could run with him well and possibly gain a bit of height advantage. Williams v Franklin would be very exciting though, and if Williams play I'd expect that at some stage he'd find himself on Franklin.

                It's so good to be wondering which one of our 3 key defenders will play on who.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • Dry Rot
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6471

                  #9
                  Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

                  how does the Hawks backline line up these days?
                  The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                  • Bulldog Revolution
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 3933

                    #10
                    Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

                    Originally posted by Dry Rot
                    how does the Hawks backline line up these days?
                    I think they are vulnerable,

                    Guerra is not that quick, Jacobs has started the season in good touch but is not tall, and Darcy is a difficult matchup for them,

                    Campbell Brown often matches up on Matt Robbins. Will they be thinking Sewell on Johnson, or Sewell on West?

                    We need to apply the same levels of pressure we did to Richmond, because Hawthorn set up a lot of their play from half back.

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                    • Bulldog Revolution
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3933

                      #11
                      Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      I think Morris is an ideal match-up for Mark Williams.
                      Would Tom Williams or cam Wight be good candidates for Franklin?

                      This would leave Harris for Roughhead

                      Harris on Roughhead would work well AND maybe Cam Wight on Franklin,
                      but as Franklin gets more of his goals roving and roaming around I'd thought maybe Hargraves, but maybe Hargraves on a Dixon/Boyle type. I guess there is also the chance they will push Croad forward.

                      I expect T-Williams to stay in the team, although it was a quiet debut. Roughhead, Boyle could be potential matchups for him.

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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        #12
                        Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

                        Williams gave Harris a touch up last year with 6. Roughhead spent a bit of time forward yesterday, but mainly they use Williams, Franklin and Boyle.

                        Morris - Williams
                        Hargrave - Franklin
                        Wight - Boyle

                        No real matchup for Harris unless Roughhead plays forward and he might be needed in defense on Darcy. Maybe this is the week for Harris to go forward?

                        Ling shut down Mitchell but Thompson let Hodge run free across halfback. I'd rather do it the other way around, Boyd could go head-to-head with Mitchell but I'd rather someone lock down Hodge. I'd love to see Robbo do it but he tends to ball watch. If Robbo got only half a dozen touches himself and chipped in with a goal or two but shut down Hodge, that would be a massive win for us.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67687

                          #13
                          Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          Williams gave Harris a touch up last year with 6. Roughhead spent a bit of time forward yesterday, but mainly they use Williams, Franklin and Boyle.

                          Morris - Williams
                          Hargrave - Franklin
                          Wight - Boyle

                          No real matchup for Harris unless Roughhead plays forward and he might be needed in defense on Darcy. Maybe this is the week for Harris to go forward?

                          Ling shut down Mitchell but Thompson let Hodge run free across halfback. I'd rather do it the other way around, Boyd could go head-to-head with Mitchell but I'd rather someone lock down Hodge. I'd love to see Robbo do it but he tends to ball watch. If Robbo got only half a dozen touches himself and chipped in with a goal or two but shut down Hodge, that would be a massive win for us.
                          Why not Harris on Franklin and let Hargrave go up the ground?
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                          • Sockeye Salmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6365

                            #14
                            Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Why not Harris on Franklin and let Hargrave go up the ground?
                            I reckon if Harris had to chase Franklin around he'd be stuffed by 1/4 time.

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10251

                              #15
                              Re: Our opponents this week: Hawthorn

                              Agreed SS. For me, I'd like to see one of our kids take Buddy. Wight followed by Williams to have a crack if needed.
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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