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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15447

    #16
    Re: How does Eade assess this loss

    Originally posted by arkie
    Eade's press conference is up on the Dogs site, check it out. Rocket is very disappointed.
    What did he say?

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    • The Coon Dog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7579

      #17
      Re: How does Eade assess this loss

      Johnson not to blame: Eade



      WESTERN Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade refused to lay any blame at skipper Brad Johnson after he missed a set shot after the siren that would have won Friday night’s game against Geelong.

      Johnson marked between the right-hand goal post and the behind post with four seconds remaining as the Cats led by three points.

      The siren sounded as Johnson lined up and he opted for a right-foot checkside kick. But it slid across the face of goal for a behind to leave the Dogs as two-point losers.

      “He was beating himself up a bit [after the game],” Eade said. “He takes that personally but it is not just one act that wins or loses you a game.

      “That sort of kick he practises a lot, we practise goalkicking and different situations and different angles.

      “I think he just rushed it a little bit. It is all ifs, buts, maybes after it has gone but after he heard the siren maybe he could have gone back; I don’t know.

      “Anyway, it was certainly a tight angle but he didn’t kick it.”

      Eade said it was the’ Dogs best performance of the season, given the opposition, but the side was still shattered to lose.

      “We came here to win, we didn’t come here to have an encouraging loss and push the top side who have belted everyone else,” Eade said.

      “It was disappointing, we could have won so there are some positives out of the game.

      “Individually and as a team we worked extremely hard but probably a couple of 10 minutes bursts cost us.”

      Eade also said errant kicking at goal during the third quarter had proved fatal.

      “They were 37 [points] up and we kicked 3.5 for the rest of the quarter, four of those were set shots,” he said.

      “We’ve just got to be able to kick those. We [also] hit the post a few times [four] but you can’t change that.”

      The Dogs have one injury concern with defender Lindsay Gilbee facing possible scans on an injured leg.

      But Eade was hopeful he would be okay to face Sydney Swans next weekend in Canberra.

      He said the gap between the Dogs and Geelong was closing although the challenge was to keep up the intensity.

      “We don’t believe we are far off teams in the competition, we believe we can compete with anyone,” Eade said.

      “I don’t think we have as many stars as other teams, as many ‘A’ graders, but we are a pretty even side and we need that consistent effort across the board from every player, and I think we got that tonight.”

      But he still had thoughts of the one that got away.

      “Honourable losses don’t really count for anything on the scoreboard do they?” Eade said.

      “If you play a great shot in cricket and get caught an inch off the ground doesn’t mean you played a good shot, it means you’re out.”
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      • lemmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6522

        #18
        Re: How does Eade assess this loss

        A few have mentioned Welsh and even if he didnt get a lot of it tonight, what he did was very good. I hadnt realised how clean his hands were, those little gives and trapping the ball is absolute class.

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        • MrMahatma
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2007
          • 3965

          #19
          Re: How does Eade assess this loss

          I think the first quarter and our continual turn overs need to be assessed.

          A few come to mind, none more than Lake's dropped mark. There were a couple of others where guys just turned it over, 3 or 4 in the first quarter, and they led to goals.

          If we don't do that we win. If we don't turn it over we're probably the best team going around.

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          • dog town
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2007
            • 1914

            #20
            Re: How does Eade assess this loss

            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite

            Higgins was brilliant too - he is clearly carrying a groin injury but I can't stress how good the guy was.

            IMO this was the making of BOTH these players. Hopefully Higgo is OK though.
            This is a huge positive. Higgins still had an impact despite being clearly hampered. I think we can expect more from Higgins in any rematch between the 2 sides.

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15307

              #21
              Re: How does Eade assess this loss

              Originally posted by Mantis
              What did he say?
              Other than what is quoted in the article on this thread, he mentioned next weeks game is vital we must win it.
              He thought Griffen's pressure early on was good and he really tore it up in the second half. Eade seemed happy with Griffen. He mentioned Cooney was poor early on but when we were 6 goals down he thought Cooney started getting into the game and moving well.

              I couldn't get the last minuate to play so Im not sure what else he said.
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • Missing Dog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8501

                #22
                Re: How does Eade assess this loss

                Eade was at the game wasn't he? I would have put Cooney and Griffen second last and last respectively in our list of best players. I think they both put in about 3 minutes of effective play-between them.

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                • Desipura
                  WOOF Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4344

                  #23
                  Re: How does Eade assess this loss

                  I thought we unsettled them with Minson in our fwd line in the last qtr, was calling for a tall much earlier. Aker went off late in the 3rd qtr after he kicked a goal. He did not return back onto the ground until the 15 minute mark, I thought at the time he should have come on earlier.

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                  • boydogs
                    WOOF Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5844

                    #24
                    Re: How does Eade assess this loss

                    Originally posted by Desipura
                    I thought we unsettled them with Minson in our fwd line in the last qtr, was calling for a tall much earlier. Aker went off late in the 3rd qtr after he kicked a goal. He did not return back onto the ground until the 15 minute mark, I thought at the time he should have come on earlier.
                    He did a lot of Rob Murphy work along with Johnno. If Murph was playing we could have left him on and we would have won
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66707

                      #25
                      Re: How does Eade assess this loss

                      Originally posted by Stefcep
                      Eade was at the game wasn't he? I would have put Cooney and Griffen second last and last respectively in our list of best players. I think they both put in about 3 minutes of effective play-between them.
                      Are you serious about Griffen. Nine tackles, four inside 50's, two goal assists 18 quality disposals and kicked 2.1.

                      Interesting analysis by Buckley that Ablett may have had 26 handballs but the majority didn't hurt the dogs, its his kicks that hurt the opposition.

                      Cooney was poor in the first half but did ramp up in the third and final quarter.
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                      • AndrewP6
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 8142

                        #26
                        Re: How does Eade assess this loss

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Are you serious about Griffen. Nine tackles, four inside 50's, two goal assists 18 quality disposals and kicked 2.1.

                        Interesting analysis by Buckley that Ablett may have had 26 handballs but the majority didn't hurt the dogs, its his kicks that hurt the opposition.

                        Cooney was poor in the first half but did ramp up in the third and final quarter.
                        Agree with these points... thought Griff actually worked harder last night than in recent times. Ablett had 38 disposals, but I didn't think tore the game apart. Coon did improve. Wonder how his knee/general fitness is?
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: How does Eade assess this loss

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Are you serious about Griffen. Nine tackles, four inside 50's, two goal assists 18 quality disposals and kicked 2.1.

                          Interesting analysis by Buckley that Ablett may have had 26 handballs but the majority didn't hurt the dogs, its his kicks that hurt the opposition.

                          Cooney was poor in the first half but did ramp up in the third and final quarter.
                          Just goes to show how most supporters don't really yet know how to appreciate the hard grunt work that really gets a team going, and only notice the flashy stuff -- they're the same people who would value a Dale Thomas over a Scott West. Westy used to cop much of the same criticism too.

                          Griff was one of our most important players last night, make no mistake about it. The coach certainly knows it.

                          --

                          re: the point that Buckley was making -- I think he's missing the point about Geelong's style of play. The fact that Gablett handballs so much is also why he and the rest of the Cats are so hard to tackle, because they move the ball so quickly. It's not about penetration when they handball -- it's about getting a player free to dispose of the ball effectively. Not sure Bucks really knows what he's talking about here -- he was the classic 'every possession has to hurt the opposition' player, but if he doesn't really get Geelong's game style, I don't think it bodes well for him as a potential senior coach.

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14309

                            #28
                            Re: How does Eade assess this loss

                            Abletts handballs are because he usually doesnt get time to get it on the boot, tagged by the best, its a matter of handballing as soon as its in your hands, a kick takes too long.
                            To see his effectiveness is to look where he he handballs it too, 95% would got to another Geelong player i would imagine.
                            Your spot on Lantern dont look at his handballs to look at his effectiveness look at what the next bloke who receives its position is.
                            Ablett is better and quicker than Greg Williams with his handballs.
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501

                              #29
                              Re: How does Eade assess this loss

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Are you serious about Griffen. Nine tackles, four inside 50's, two goal assists 18 quality disposals and kicked 2.1.

                              Interesting analysis by Buckley that Ablett may have had 26 handballs but the majority didn't hurt the dogs, its his kicks that hurt the opposition.

                              Cooney was poor in the first half but did ramp up in the third and final quarter.
                              Well Griffen's stats are an example of when stats lie about a players influence on the game. Is Griffen on the ground to make tackles or win the ball in the center and set up the forwards? Where was he when Ablett, Selwood and co were running amok for 3 quarters? Quality disposals? Like bombing it into the forward line 50 meters up and 50 meters down to no-one. 2 Goals fair enough, but what about the low shot to an open goal that hit the base of the post? Overall I thought his disposal was ordinary. i was amazed that Griffens game was ranked higher than Akermanis's by the Herald Sun. Just my opinion.

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                              • Missing Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8501

                                #30
                                Re: How does Eade assess this loss

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                Abletts handballs are because he usually doesnt get time to get it on the boot, tagged by the best, its a matter of handballing as soon as its in your hands, a kick takes too long.
                                To see his effectiveness is to look where he he handballs it too, 95% would got to another Geelong player i would imagine.
                                Your spot on Lantern dont look at his handballs to look at his effectiveness look at what the next bloke who receives its position is.
                                Ablett is better and quicker than Greg Williams with his handballs.
                                Abletts arms are hardly ever pinned to his sides: he lifts his arms up so that he gets tackled around the waist, leaving his hands free to hand pass. Secondly he can stand up in the tackle well beacsue of his leg strength. (thirdly the umps seem to give him a second prior opportunity whereas everyone else gets only one prior opportunity). Geelong players have a tactic where if they're tackled they handball out to space, and the team mates know this so they run to the space. Thats why very few freekicks for holding the ball go against them

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