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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66096

    #16
    Re: What changes Round 6?

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    Gia hasn't come up like he should have and over the next couple of weeks he must start to run into some good form. He is a leader at the club and must start playing like one.
    He has been dissapointing and maybe he needs to be dropped. As I have stated before, all we need from Robbo is 2 goals per week and maybe a couple extra here and there, ie to kick about 50 for the year, plus chase and tackle. You can't have everyone as a super star and not many players kick 50 goals a year. Robbo can.
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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15320

      #17
      Re: What changes Round 6?

      Originally posted by bornadog
      As I have stated before, all we need from Robbo is 2 goals per week and maybe a couple extra here and there, ie to kick about 50 for the year, plus chase and tackle. You can't have everyone as a super star and not many players kick 50 goals a year. Robbo can.
      Dont wont to bash up on Robbo too much but I think he needs a spell...

      3 games for 11 kicks, 2 tackles and 3 goals is probably not enough to keep his spot.

      I understand not everyone can have 20 possessions a game, etc.. but I think we need more output from this small forward position.

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      • Go_Dogs
        Hall of Fame
        • Jan 2007
        • 10110

        #18
        Re: What changes Round 6?

        It's a tough one. Between Higgins, Akermanis and Cooney we have 3 reasonably good guys who can rotate through that small forward spot. Robbins, plays as more of a marking forward though, leading up inside the F50. Harbrow was playing mainly across the F50 and out further, getting some kicks up near the wing, as well as playing a crumbing sort of role in the F50. Faulkner is another who could perhaps offer something as a forward/midfield rotation.

        It's interesting. If Murphy, Darcy, Cooney, Johnson all continue to kick goals, we might not need a Robbins type player, however his strengths obviously extend beyond his good goal kicking ability to his defensive pressure too. Faulkner and Harbrow are both reasonably quick, Harbrow performed well with his chasing and tackling in his debut game, and we all know how hard Faulkner is at the contest and at the body.

        I'd personally like to see one of the young lads in Faulkner or Harbrow get a bit of an extended run in the team to show what they can do. I feel that by seasons end, they could both overtake Robbins if given the proper opportunities. It's a tough call though, as Robbins had an excellent year last year, although again had many quiet weeks. Tough call. Glad I'm not on the selection panel at the moment.
        Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66096

          #19
          Re: What changes Round 6?

          Originally posted by McMahon#23
          It's a tough one. Between Higgins, Akermanis and Cooney we have 3 reasonably good guys who can rotate through that small forward spot. Robbins, plays as more of a marking forward though, leading up inside the F50. Harbrow was playing mainly across the F50 and out further, getting some kicks up near the wing, as well as playing a crumbing sort of role in the F50. Faulkner is another who could perhaps offer something as a forward/midfield rotation.

          It's interesting. If Murphy, Darcy, Cooney, Johnson all continue to kick goals, we might not need a Robbins type player, however his strengths obviously extend beyond his good goal kicking ability to his defensive pressure too. Faulkner and Harbrow are both reasonably quick, Harbrow performed well with his chasing and tackling in his debut game, and we all know how hard Faulkner is at the contest and at the body.

          I'd personally like to see one of the young lads in Faulkner or Harbrow get a bit of an extended run in the team to show what they can do. I feel that by seasons end, they could both overtake Robbins if given the proper opportunities. It's a tough call though, as Robbins had an excellent year last year, although again had many quiet weeks. Tough call. Glad I'm not on the selection panel at the moment.
          I am a Robbo fan but admit he hasn't done much todate, he did have an interrupted preseason. I would give him one more week and see how he goes.

          Agree Faulkner needs to come in at some stage so we can see if he is really up to AFL level. He has been doing well in the BEES.
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66096

            #20
            Re: What changes Round 6?

            OFFiCIAL
            Robbo out
            Addison in
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            • Dry Rot
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6432

              #21
              Re: What changes Round 6?

              Originally posted by bornadog
              OFFiCIAL
              Robbo out
              Addison in
              Is this a minor change or does it signal a bit of a changed set-up for this game?
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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10110

                #22
                Re: What changes Round 6?

                I think it will free up another defender to possibly spend more time in the middle. I personally don't think Addison will get a tagging role, however stranger things have happened.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • Dry Rot
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6432

                  #23
                  Re: What changes Round 6?

                  How do we stop Kerr? This year so far Kerr > Judd IMO.
                  The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66096

                    #24
                    Re: What changes Round 6?

                    Originally posted by McMahon#23
                    I think it will free up another defender to possibly spend more time in the middle. I personally don't think Addison will get a tagging role, however stranger things have happened.
                    According to Eade needed a player than can run a bit on a big ground and also mentioned Addison has some tricks in his bag. Maybe he will tag Kerr?
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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10110

                      #25
                      Re: What changes Round 6?

                      Could be an interesting move if he does tag Kerr. Personally I don't think he'd be able to run out the game anywhere near as Kerr at this stage. Ray would be my first choice I guess...but either way, I don't think stopping them will be too effective.
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • Bulldog Revolution
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3924

                        #26
                        Re: What changes Round 6?

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        According to Eade needed a player than can run a bit on a big ground and also mentioned Addison has some tricks in his bag. Maybe he will tag Kerr?
                        I watched the VFL game a second time and Addison was better than I had initially thought, I think him tagging Kerr is certainly a good step for his development. Kerr is an excellent role model for running hard and playing with amazing intensity so if that rubs off on the boy Dylan its all good

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                        • Sockeye Salmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6365

                          #27
                          Re: What changes Round 6?

                          Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
                          I watched the VFL game a second time and Addison was better than I had initially thought, I think him tagging Kerr is certainly a good step for his development. Kerr is an excellent role model for running hard and playing with amazing intensity so if that rubs off on the boy Dylan its all good
                          I watched the first half again last night paying particular attention to Addison, Everitt, Faulkner and Harbrow.

                          By half time Addison had 6 possesions and other than 1 good mark cutting off Morrell's lead didn't do a lot.

                          Everitt also had 6 possesions but the were all effective and clean (and uncontested). He did make 1 mistake where he overran the ball that led directly to a Preston goal.

                          Faulkner had 9 possesions but 3 led to turnovers (1 was a long bomb to HF that was maked by Preston, the other two were both under pressure as he kicked - 1 OOB and 1 marked by them).

                          Harbrow had 8 possesions and two goals (1 x Joe the Goose). Had more of it than I thought watching it live and was actually really good. 3-4 HBG and 1 hangar.

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                          • southerncross
                            Technical Admin
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 590

                            #28
                            Re: What changes Round 6?

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            I watched the first half again last night paying particular attention to Addison, Everitt, Faulkner and Harbrow.

                            By half time Addison had 6 possesions and other than 1 good mark cutting off Morrell's lead didn't do a lot.

                            Everitt also had 6 possesions but the were all effective and clean (and uncontested). He did make 1 mistake where he overran the ball that led directly to a Preston goal.

                            Faulkner had 9 possesions but 3 led to turnovers (1 was a long bomb to HF that was maked by Preston, the other two were both under pressure as he kicked - 1 OOB and 1 marked by them).

                            Harbrow had 8 possesions and two goals (1 x Joe the Goose). Had more of it than I thought watching it live and was actually really good. 3-4 HBG and 1 hangar.
                            Do you think Harbrow might have been a better addition?
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                            • Raw Toast
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 982

                              #29
                              Re: What changes Round 6?

                              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                              I watched the first half again last night paying particular attention to Addison, Everitt, Faulkner and Harbrow.

                              By half time Addison had 6 possesions and other than 1 good mark cutting off Morrell's lead didn't do a lot.

                              Everitt also had 6 possesions but the were all effective and clean (and uncontested). He did make 1 mistake where he overran the ball that led directly to a Preston goal.

                              Faulkner had 9 possesions but 3 led to turnovers (1 was a long bomb to HF that was maked by Preston, the other two were both under pressure as he kicked - 1 OOB and 1 marked by them).

                              Harbrow had 8 possesions and two goals (1 x Joe the Goose). Had more of it than I thought watching it live and was actually really good. 3-4 HBG and 1 hangar.
                              Interesting read Sockeye be keen to see the second half comparison as well. Did Fualkner play off the back flank in the first half? I think he did in the second half and came into the game more, still some loose disposals from memory but started to give a fair bit of drive as well.

                              I think Harbrow is shaping like a really good pick up atm but can understand that Addison might be more useful if he has a bigger engine atm (which I presume he does). I think our game plan with the Weagles is to try and run them off their feet and the move of Addison in for Robbins allows for that. Also not like we are starving for crumbers with Higgins and Aker in the side.

                              If Harbrow keeps up that form he'll demand a place soon enough. He's got the exciting things (even hangers as well as goose-steps), but it's his hardness that I really like. Seems to do a few of the smaller things as well as the attention-grabbing plays.

                              I like Everitt's cleaness and general calmness. Can certainly see him slotting into a hbf role sometime this season. Not the type yet to break a game open or really impose himself on the game, more contribute with good spoils and deft touches.
                              Last edited by Raw Toast; 04-05-2007, 02:41 PM.
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                              • Sockeye Salmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6365

                                #30
                                Re: What changes Round 6?

                                Originally posted by southerncross
                                Do you think Harbrow might have been a better addition?
                                I've only watched the first half this closely (I watched the game at the time without specifically concentrating on a few players) but up to half time Harbrow had been the better performed of the two, however ...

                                Addison was in at the centre bounces in the second quarter so he might have been tagging someone, on the TV it's difficult to tell. I didn't notice any Preston player tear it up early and then go out of it, but they might have. This would have strengthened his claims to a spot this week.



                                Raw Toast,

                                Faulkner was indeed playing off halfback.

                                What impressed me most about Harbrow is that while he certainly does the spectacular, he is a lot better at doing the mundane than I thought.

                                Everitt will be very good one day.

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