Umps

**soupman** · 09-08-2009, 09:31 PM

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This was pretty much right after I arrived. The umpire paid the mark and the 50m for pushing the player, when it should have just been a free for pushing the player, as the player had a lot less of the ball than either Johnson or Addison did down the other end, and both of them were denied their marks. Absolute joke of a decision.

**Missing Dog** · 10-08-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by bulldogtragic

Today's 50 was the worst 50m penalty i think i've ever seen paid - which then led to a goal. Not the reason for the loss at all, but worst 50m i can think of.

I made the comment myself at the time.

And just to make things worse (not for the Dogs), the 50m was about 35m.

**AndrewP6** · 06-09-2009, 12:52 PM

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What did people think yesterday? Another ordinary performance in my book. Triple M commentators said that the Cats had 19 on the field (Milburn the culprit) at one point early on. Nothing happened. Yet a while back when Welsh did it, the league was in uproar.

**LostDoggy** · 06-09-2009, 01:19 PM

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Thought they were very average to be honest, especially a free kick they gave in the pocket of the punt road end.

Not sure who the Geelong player was, but he threw the ball out with both hands. But the umpire didn't call that, instead giving Geelong a free for to high.

**Mofra** · 06-09-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewP6

The issue is people are always going on about how we must respect the umpires, not criticise them publicly, not go near them etc. Yet it seems the same rules don't apply to them.

When have you heard an umpire publically (ie through the media) bag out a player?

On the field is a different proposition.

**Mantis** · 06-09-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by JH40

Not sure who the Geelong player was, but he threw the ball out with both hands. But the umpire didn't call that, instead giving Geelong a free for to high.

It was Ling. Shocking decision.

**LostDoggy** · 06-09-2009, 04:46 PM

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I think the umps were poor but had little influence on the result yesterday. My gripe is the comps leading free fors player in Joel Selwood, would love to how many of those were from him ducking into or going head first into a tackle.

**AndrewP6** · 06-09-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Mofra

When have you heard an umpire publically (ie through the media) bag out a player?

On the field is a different proposition.

But it shouldn't be... you either show respect to someone all the time, or not at all... the old "what happens on the field stays on the field" should apply to players, not umps... If they are allowed to have a go at players on field, players should be allowed to do the same. But, as we all know, they're not allowed to breathe on an ump.

**Missing-Dog** · 06-09-2009, 06:19 PM

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First quarter, City end. Can't remember if it was a boundary throw in or a bounce but Will got pinged for "touching" the opposition ruckman. Very poor yesterday. Not the difference but very poor.

**AndrewP6** · 06-09-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by craigsahibee

First quarter, City end. Can't remember if it was a boundary throw in or a bounce but Will got pinged for "touching" the opposition ruckman. Very poor yesterday. Not the difference but very poor.

Yep.. and in today's game, big Rocca got hit with a 50m penalty for an elbow to the chest of Zac Dawson. Which, to quote the commentators, "happens a hundred times every game"...

**Mofra** · 06-09-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewP6

But it shouldn't be... you either show respect to someone all the time, or not at all... the old "what happens on the field stays on the field" should apply to players, not umps... If they are allowed to have a go at players on field, players should be allowed to do the same. But, as we all know, they're not allowed to breathe on an ump.

As long as players don't swear, they generally get a little bit of leeway in the heat of the moment (ie just after an umpiring decision). As much as players get emotional, umpires are human too, not robots.
I think everyone should have a little bit of breathing space in terms of reacting the way they do; footy's an empotional game and even the officials are desperate to do as well as they can.

**AndrewP6** · 06-09-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Mofra

As long as players don't swear, they generally get a little bit of leeway in the heat of the moment (ie just after an umpiring decision). As much as players get emotional, umpires are human too, not robots.
I think everyone should have a little bit of breathing space in terms of reacting the way they do; footy's an empotional game and even the officials are desperate to do as well as they can.

Couple of weeks ago, a 50m penalty was paid, on the grounds of the player's "demeanour"...it's this sort of ridiculous nitpicking that earns my wrath...

And whilst I agree everyone is human, and that you should have some breathing space, from my observations there are too many umps who are too precious and officious... and don't use this sort of discretion...

**jazzadogs** · 06-09-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewP6

What did people think yesterday? Another ordinary performance in my book. Triple M commentators said that the Cats had 19 on the field (Milburn the culprit) at one point early on. Nothing happened. Yet a while back when Welsh did it, the league was in uproar.

You can see it on the TV, because there's a boundary throw-in/ball up happening right next to the interchange gates at the same time. Varcoe was definitely involved, not sure if it was Milburn...saw it live at the game, so I was waiting for a comment on the TV but they didnt say anything.

None of the umpiring affected the results, but it was average. I'm losing respect for Selwood, the amount of free kicks he gets from ducking/dropping at the knees. Sure, he's a courageous player, but it irritates me. Not as much as Collingwood shepharding against the man on the mark though!!!

**AndrewP6** · 06-09-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by jazzadogs

You can see it on the TV, because there's a boundary throw-in/ball up happening right next to the interchange gates at the same time. Varcoe was definitely involved, not sure if it was Milburn...saw it live at the game, so I was waiting for a comment on the TV but they didnt say anything.

None of the umpiring affected the results, but it was average. I'm losing respect for Selwood, the amount of free kicks he gets from ducking/dropping at the knees. Sure, he's a courageous player, but it irritates me. Not as much as Collingwood shepharding against the man on the mark though!!!

Varcoe may have been the extra, did Milburn take himself off? I couldn't see it, but the radio buys were on it right away...One of the Triple M blokes (BT I think) was going nuts about it...50m penalty could've been handy there...

Know what you mean about Selwood. And the umps fall for it...

**jazzadogs** · 06-09-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewP6

Varcoe may have been the extra, did Milburn take himself off? I couldn't see it, but the radio buys were on it right away...One of the Triple M blokes (BT I think) was going nuts about it...50m penalty could've been handy there...

Know what you mean about Selwood. And the umps fall for it...

To be honest, can't remember who was doing what...just remember Varcoe hopping back and forth over the line. Obviously the emergency umpire was concentrating too much on the play and not enough on the interchange.

They have to pay Selwood the free kick because he does get tackled high...I just don't agree with his methods.

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