Why Won't Daniel Cross Kick A Goal?

[Happy Days]

I hate to be negative, but it has to be mentioned. Crossy, for the umpteenth time tonight, could have kicked a fairly routine goal on the run, but instead went a chip pass to a 1-on-1 that did not pay off at all.

Crossy's one of our best players, as he was tonight, but is their any danger that if he's within striking distance, he may actually strike? It's going beyond a confidence issue.

[AndrewP6]

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yep I agree. That was a howler... needs a good talking to...how good would he be if he slotted a goal or two now and again?

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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I hate to be negative, but it has to be mentioned. Crossy, for the umpteenth time tonight, could have kicked a fairly routine goal on the run, but instead went a chip pass to a 1-on-1 that did not pay off at all.

Crossy's one of our best players, as he was tonight, but is their any danger that if he's within striking distance, he may actually strike? It's going beyond a confidence issue.

Was one of our best tonight, however his lack of willingness to back himself by foot in front of goal and also often in general play is a concern.
No doubt given his character he would be working on it in training, but a time will come where he will have to take his chances...and nail them.

Boyd used to be reluctant to shoot for goal as wel, however he has improved markedly in this area and is a much more well rounded and dangerous player for it.
In order for Crossy to become an elite and damaging player he will need to address this, sooner rather than later.

[The Coon Dog]

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I honestly didn't think he was that good tonight. His 30 odd possessions were about as effective as Kane Cornes in my view. Sorry if I seem harsh, but I'd rather he backed himself to kick more often. He did last week against Richmond & did it well. Tonight he took some nice marks overhead, but often then went backwards by hand & stopped the forward momentum.

If you were his opponent, you would just corrale him, knowing exactly what he was going to do.

I was surprised so many gave him votes tonight, funny how we all see the same thing, but see it differently.

[Mantis]

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His marking, endurance and courage make a him a very valuable player.

His unwillingness & inability to kick the footy make him at times a liability.

He has been good playing run with roles (with good effect) against the better teams and I think that is the role he fills against Geelong & St.Kilda.

[AndrewP6]

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I honestly didn't think he was that good tonight. His 30 odd possessions were about as effective as Kane Cornes in my view. Sorry if I seem harsh, but I'd rather he backed himself to kick more often. He did last week against Richmond & did it well. Tonight he took some nice marks overhead, but often then went backwards by hand & stopped the forward momentum.

If you were his opponent, you would just corrale him, knowing exactly what he was going to do.

I was surprised so many gave him votes tonight, funny how we all see the same thing, but see it differently.

Agree, I think he was good, but didn't put him in my best. Needs to put boot to ball a bit more often, especially when a goal is up for grabs.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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I honestly didn't think he was that good tonight. His 30 odd possessions were about as effective as Kane Cornes in my view. Sorry if I seem harsh, but I'd rather he backed himself to kick more often. He did last week against Richmond & did it well. Tonight he took some nice marks overhead, but often then went backwards by hand & stopped the forward momentum.

If you were his opponent, you would just corrale him, knowing exactly what he was going to do.

I was surprised so many gave him votes tonight, funny how we all see the same thing, but see it differently.

I thought the amount of hard ball he won and the way he brought our running players into the play was important tonight. We needed to smash Port in close to prevent them from getting the ball outside & emplying their running game and I thought Crossy, Griff and Picken were important in that regard.

I agree though that when he gets the ball in open field he does tend to stop prop then look for a hanball that then givea the opposition time to organise themselves up field. However when he gets the ball in close and uses his quick hands to get the ball out to our runners he is almost reminiscent of Scott West.

[Missing Dog]

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Nothing new ..I've been giving it to Cross about his kicking for two seasons now. Just not acceptable at AFL level.

[wb_age]

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Think back to last year, in the game against Richmond where we managed to pinch a draw. Cross received a free on the boundary about 20m out with less than a few mins remaining, he just went back and slotted a drop punt under immense pressure.

He should forced to watch that on replay for the duration of the week off because he can kick goals, it's all above the shoulders.

[angelopetraglia]

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Agree he should kick more.

But he wins his own ball. He had 16 contested possessions tonight. A sensational effort. Also 5 tackles.

In comparison Kane Cornes won 8 contested possessions ... he can still be damaging if he wins his own ball and feeds our good outside runners.

[LostDoggy]

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Played really well especially when the heat was still in the game and I would have ranked him a shade in front of Cooney for BOG with Minson in 3rd.

[Happy Days]

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Agree he should kick more.

But he wins his own ball. He had 16 contested possessions tonight. A sensational effort. Also 5 tackles.

In comparison Kane Cornes won 8 contested possessions ... he can still be damaging if he wins his own ball and feeds our good outside runners.

There's no debate about his ability to get the ball. My concern was not only his inability, but what seems a disinterest in being damaging with it when he gets it, especially inside forward 50.

In my honest opinion, he can't be considered elite until he does this.

[dog town]

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I honestly didn't think he was that good tonight. His 30 odd possessions were about as effective as Kane Cornes in my view. Sorry if I seem harsh, but I'd rather he backed himself to kick more often. He did last week against Richmond & did it well. Tonight he took some nice marks overhead, but often then went backwards by hand & stopped the forward momentum.

If you were his opponent, you would just corrale him, knowing exactly what he was going to do.

I was surprised so many gave him votes tonight, funny how we all see the same thing, but see it differently.

Cant agree with that. He was unbelievable in close. 16 contested possessions and some of those handballs were worth 2 kicks in my honest opinion. I can see where you are going with it but I just think some are reading too much into his effectiveness or lack of. He has plenty that he can do better but any time you get the ball back from a disputed situation that many times you are going a long way towards winning the game for your side. Add his vision and marking to the equation and its a fairly handy game.

I dont mind guys going backwards particularly if we have nothing on or if the player in possession is facing away from goal. It is always good to bring guys up from behind the footy to receive if you can. It creates run and over lap, makes the other side accountable and most importantly a guy receiving from behind the contest can see the whole field ahead of him and use the ball more effectively. That is why so many sides over the years have had "no u turns" as a team rule.

I totally agree that it is frustrating when he is running forward and has an opening but stops and turns to hand pass but he just needs to find the balance. For such a good player he doesn't seem to have a real awareness of his capabilities. Late in the game against Geelong he got it right. Heard Eagleton streaming down his left hand side and realised Eagleton on his left from 55 is a far better bet than himself in the same situation. He has had other times where he is clearly capable of getting the job done himself and chosen not to do it. Its frustrating but I dont think it should cancel out all of the good things he does when we are assessing his games.

[bulldogtragic]

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I can see why Eade gets frustrated with Crossy now. This game highlighted how his refusal to kick, and take shots at goal, were negatives during the game. There is no doubting his courage, hard ball getting ability, over head marking, tackling and so forth - but last night he stopped the flow of the team on several occasions. When you win by 93 points, most wouldnt care, but in the close games and teams that put on any pressure, taking the great mark, but stopping and handballing backwards insted of kicking to advantage or moving forward to beat the enevitable zone or flood isn't good and against Geelong/St Kilda could be a liability. Although i'm not sure what Eade can do that he hasn't done already?

[Go_Dogs]

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I honestly didn't think he was that good tonight. His 30 odd possessions were about as effective as Kane Cornes in my view. Sorry if I seem harsh, but I'd rather he backed himself to kick more often. He did last week against Richmond & did it well. Tonight he took some nice marks overhead, but often then went backwards by hand & stopped the forward momentum.

If you were his opponent, you would just corrale him, knowing exactly what he was going to do.

I was surprised so many gave him votes tonight, funny how we all see the same thing, but see it differently.

I tended to agree and thought the majority of his touches were not creative. As you said some of his marking was a highlight.

Really needs to have more confidence by foot, especially when running on goal. Still a solid contributor for us on the night, but his form this season has been well down on some of this better years, imo at least.