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  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 8961

    Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

    Match Preview – round 14: Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn.
    Saturday 4th July, 7:10pm Etihad Stadium.

    Last time they met:
    2nd Qualifying Final 2008
    Hawthorn 18.19.127 d Western Bulldogs 11.10.71

    Form:

    An interesting time for both clubs to meet. This time last year the Dogs looked shaky and somewhat fatigued leading into and coming out of the mid-season break, and the Hawks were building strongly. This year the opposite is the case, with the Hawks battling both injuries and consistency, whilst the Dogs look to be trending upwards.

    The Hawks are obviously well down on their Premiership form of 2008 having lost 3 out of their last 4 games culminating in a shock loss to the Eagles last weekend. They now find themselves 6 and 7 and in danger of missing the 8.

    No doubt injuries have played a part in Hawthorns shaky season to date, however it is their intensity and work-rate especially in second halves which has let them down in the past month.

    Against an undermanned Lions defense, the Hawks were shut down in the middle after half time and therefore their height advantage up forward was negated.

    The Dogs after a mini slump of 3 losses in a row, have rebounded strongly following a heartbreaking 2 point loss against the unbeaten Cats. Since then the Dogs have won four straight and have for the most part looked back to their running best.

    Key Injuries:

    The Dogs have one definite and significant loss with Giansiracusa out and possibly another with Gilbee no certainty to play .The Hawks injury woes continue missing Rioli and Williams and possibly Dew and Lewis.

    Key Match ups:

    Morris v Roughead
    Lake v Franklin

    On paper these two look like mismatches in the Hawks favour (as its proved to be the last time we met). However the key to this working is how hard we pressure and stifle the Hawks run out of the middle. If we can contain their midfield from the clearances and slow their forward entries then guys like Hargrave, Harbrow and Gilbee (if he plays) will be able to work as 3rd man in.

    Picken v Mitchell
    Crucial to our ability to stop the run is to negate their pure ball winner Mitchell. Boyd did this successfully against Mitchell during the home and away match last season. However I think Boyd's value to the team right now is to play a positive role himself. Which leaves Picken the choice to try to shut down Mitchell

    Boyd v Sewell
    Sewell is one of the few Hawks to be playing at the same level as last year. Boyd has himself gone up another gear. Boyd has the strength and tenacity to beat Sewell to go with Sewell and shades Sewell with his speed and use of the ball.

    Eagleton v Bateman
    Bateman is a crucial runner, and Eagleton has the speed, to go with him, and also the skills to hurt the Hawks and perhaps force Bateman to pay him some respect. I've liked Eagleton's defensive efforts this year, and he will need to employ it to full effect to curb Bateman's influence.

    Hill v Hodge
    Hodge sets up play for the Hawks and also performs well as third man into marking contests. I think Hill has shown alot more defensive pressure in his game of late, and also has the aerial skills to compete with Hodge. On the flipside Hill's attacking skills may force Hodge to be more defensively minded and may inhibit his run off the half back line.

    Minson/Hudson v Campbell/Renouf
    Minson's form in recent weeks has been great, and Hudson is as consistent as ever with his second and third efforts in stoppages. Hudson I feel will play more of the centre work and try to stop them from getting a quick release to outside runners, and Minson could spend more time up forward - potentially forcing them to position Campbell deep in defense for large portions of the game.

    Where will it be won and lost?

    Simply put if Hawthorn secure quick and regular ball from the centre and if our forwards are not applying consistent pressure, then Morris and Lake won't stand a chance and neither will the Bulldogs.

    If on the other hand the Dogs can win the majority of the clearances and in turn run and carry quickly through the Hawks zone we have the spread of finishers to put the Hawks to the sword.

    Mitchell and Bateman cannot be allowed to have an influence in the middle, and Hodge must not be able to play as the loose man in defense.

    Summary

    Whoever plays on Sewell and Mitchell, they must beat them to give us the edge and allow us to do as the Lions did in denying quick supply of the ball to Roughy and Buddy.

    We will need someone to step up in Giansiracusa's absence and ensure effective entry into our forward fifty.

    Furthermore we will need to use the ball a heck of alot better than we did against North otherwise the ball will transfer with speed to Franklin and Roughead with results similar to that of last year's Qualifying final loss.

    Finally when the Hawks do win possession of the ball we need to deny them the opportunity to move it on quickly, and force them to make mistakes under pressure. Similar to what we achieved against them down in Tasmania last year.

    I think that we will be too strong for the Hawks in the middle, and as the game wears on our fitness will become important as they have several underdone players which should see us be able to move the ball freely through the centre.

    Providing our use of the ball is better than it was against North and we do not allow the Hawks too much room to move quickly when they have the ball I think we can win this one and cement our top 3 position.

    Dogs by 30 points.
    Last edited by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot; 30-06-2009, 06:04 PM.
  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11245

    #2
    Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

    Great summary YHF.

    Do you think that perhaps Crossy would be a better match-up for Mitchell, leaving Picken to either keep Hodge honest or take on their most important run and carry option in Bateman (Picken has not manned up against any of the inside extractors this year to date)? If the midfield match-ups go as you have suggested, Crossy becomes the spare floater, and it's fair to say that his deployment as the spare man in defence in last year's disastrous final was a big failure, simultaneously putting a questionable disposor by foot in an important defensive rebounding position and robbing us of crucial inside grunt in the process.

    I like the idea of Cross being in and around the stoppages as much as possible this week to ensure that Hawthorn has as much trouble as possible gaining clean clearances with which to feed their key forwards.

    Hawthorn slogged it out in the elements in Perth last week, which you'd imagine won't help their recovery for this week.
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66688

      #3
      Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

      Great preview, YHF. Agree with everything you have said.

      In regards to filling in for Gia, I think you will find Murphy will play forward this week as he did in the second half against North. The dogs have been easing him back into the team and this is the week he will be needed up forward, especially now that Gia is not playing and unable to give us goal assists. Murphy also needs to fiund targets, as he tends to play on quickly and bomb the ball in long. Mitch Hahn also needs to step up and really put the pressure on a very weak, Hawthorn backline.

      Agree the game will be won by the better midfield, and we need four quarters from Griffen, who can really break a game open. He showed us in the third quarter on Sunday what he can do, but we need that for the whole game.
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      • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 8961

        #4
        Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

        Originally posted by Sedat
        Great summary YHF.

        Do you think that perhaps Crossy would be a better match-up for Mitchell, leaving Picken to either keep Hodge honest or take on their most important run and carry option in Bateman (Picken has not manned up against any of the inside extractors this year to date)? If the midfield match-ups go as you have suggested, Crossy becomes the spare floater, and it's fair to say that his deployment as the spare man in defence in last year's disastrous final was a big failure, simultaneously putting a questionable disposor by foot in an important defensive rebounding position and robbing us of crucial inside grunt in the process.

        I like the idea of Cross being in and around the stoppages as much as possible this week to ensure that Hawthorn has as much trouble as possible gaining clean clearances with which to feed their key forwards.

        Hawthorn slogged it out in the elements in Perth last week, which you'd imagine won't help their recovery for this week.
        You have an extremely valid point re Cross on Mitchell, Crossy was a disaster in the floating role.

        My thought process of Eagleton on Bateman was based on Eagleton's attacking skills possibly forcing Bateman to have to pay some defensive attention which may in turn mean he's not always going to be a free outside option for Hawthorn to go to.

        I wonder if Picken could be effective on the half back flank on Osborne?

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

          Great preview mate.

          Every week you think Hawthorn will lift, but yet they disappoint (themselves & their fans) again and again. I just hope it's not this week that they decide to fire up. Even though I think the Doggies can overcome them even if they do decide to fire up.

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          • Rocco Jones
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jun 2008
            • 6931

            #6
            Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

            I am selling Picken on Hodge to anyone who bothers to read my posts this week. I think it's a very bad idea to play an out and out tagger on an inside midfielder who wins their own ball like Mitchell. Picken has a sense for goal as well.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #7
              Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

              I think we can take advantage in the ruck department, can probably win it from there.

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              • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 8961

                #8
                Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                I am selling Picken on Hodge to anyone who bothers to read my posts this week. I think it's a very bad idea to play an out and out tagger on an inside midfielder who wins their own ball like Mitchell. Picken has a sense for goal as well.
                Yes...Yes Rocco....thankfully I'm I'm not on the selection panel!!

                Picken on Mitchell = very bad move.

                I'll concede on that issue.

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6931

                  #9
                  Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

                  Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                  Yes...Yes Rocco....thankfully I'm I'm not on the selection panel!!

                  Picken on Mitchell = very bad move.

                  I'll concede on that issue.
                  Sorry mate, didn't mean to have a go at your post. Great work on the review.

                  One other thing is that I would go with Morris on Buddy and Lake on Roughead.

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                  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8961

                    #10
                    Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

                    Originally posted by JH40
                    I think we can take advantage in the ruck department, can probably win it from there.
                    I agree. I wonder if Hudson has the capacity to play a larger portion of the game in the ruck so we can leave Minson up forward for larger periods? Thus forcing the Hawks to have to play Campbell in defense longer or conceding height to Minson by playing a smaller opponent on him.

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                    • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8961

                      #11
                      Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      Sorry mate, didn't mean to have a go at your post. Great work on the review.

                      One other thing is that I would go with Morris on Buddy and Lake on Roughead.
                      That's fine Rocco.. wasn't insinuating that you were roasting me... more embarrassment on my part for putting Picken in a role he has not played to date.

                      I think the Morris matchup might depend on the circumstances of the game. I thought Lake looked better on Buddy in the second half of the Finals game, and I'm just not sure if Morris has the strength one on one against Roughy?

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14945

                        #12
                        Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

                        Good preview - certainly seems like we are happy to go undersized in defence in the past few weeks, sacrificing height for quality in the absence of a fit Williams. Buddy/Roughy on papaer looks like our major worry, but the midfield is where it will be won & lost. Last year's QF the Hawks ran us ragged, a half-fit Cooney didn't help.
                        This time around we'll have Boyd, Cross, Eagle & Picken running hard, with Cooney & Griffen playing effective burst minutes.
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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6520

                          #13
                          Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

                          Great preview, I would like to see Picken go to Bateman. Hawthorns best runner and outside midfielder, he looks to be a good matchup for the young fella.
                          I also think Roughead will have a bit too much strength for Morris while Franklin might be a bit agile for Lake so I would prefer to see Lake on Roughy and Morris on Franklin.

                          Could Hargrave go to Brown when he's up there, with Mark Williams out it frees him up a bit and gives us that extra flexibility. Also I think Harbrow will go to Osborne.

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                          • boydogs
                            WOOF Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5844

                            #14
                            Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

                            Originally posted by lemmon
                            Great preview, I would like to see Picken go to Bateman. Hawthorns best runner and outside midfielder, he looks to be a good matchup for the young fella.
                            I also think Roughead will have a bit too much strength for Morris while Franklin might be a bit agile for Lake so I would prefer to see Lake on Roughy and Morris on Franklin.

                            Could Hargrave go to Brown when he's up there, with Mark Williams out it frees him up a bit and gives us that extra flexibility. Also I think Harbrow will go to Osborne.
                            Cyril Rioli out too, its not just their defense ravaged by injury. Agree with Picken on Bateman and probably the backs as well, but I loved Lake getting under Buddy's skin last year
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                            • Mantis
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 15444

                              #15
                              Re: Round 14, Match Preview: Bulldogs v Hawthorn

                              Good work on the preview YHF.

                              It certainly shapes up as a season defining game for the Hawks as you would think that if they don't win this week their chance at back to back flags would almost be over. As it sits at the moment they play the top 4 sides over the next 6 weeks so they will certainly earn their finals spot if they achieve it.

                              I think we catch them at a good time as we are probably in need of a tough match having come off some reasonably easy games. As we all know we have some tough games coming up too so hopefully we can find some good form against the Hawks.

                              So what to we expect this week, well the Hawks have been mis-firing a fair bit, but you would think they will come out hard this week. They destroyed us in the finals last year and they will be looking for a similar performance.

                              On the match-up side of things it will be quite interesting and the discussion so far covers off most of these. From my perspective I hope we match the hardness and ball winning abilities of Sewell & Mitchell in the middle, make Hodge accountable by drawing him away from his comfort zone .ie. draw him wide and play through his opponent and somehow keep the twin towers in check, although it must be said that neither are in the form they showed last year.

                              I would hope that if we can win our fair share of the ball and use it well we will expose a Hawthorn defence which is really struggling. This game will give us a good idea of how much we have improved & matured from last year and give us an early guide to how we might go in the finals. Really looking forward to the challenges this game presents.

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