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  • chef
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 14617

    Hope for Hall.

    Hope for Hall
    Christian Nicolussi | July 04, 2009 12:00am

    THE Western Bulldogs have again emerged as a possible saviour for Barry Hall, with the club leaving the door ajar next season for the Sydney bad boy. In the same week 11 rival clubs said they would not bother to pursue 32-year-old Hall - on the nose at Sydney after he belted Adelaide's Ben Rutten and earned another two-match ban - the Dogs refused to rule out the idea of Hall being at Whitten Oval in 2010.

    Hall himself used his Sydney newspaper column yesterday to make explosive claims that he could immediately quit Sydney and play on elsewhere next year.

    "Could now be the right time for me to finish up at the Swans?" Hall wrote.

    "It could give me a break that I might benefit from, and freshen me up for a crack with a new club next season."

    The Bulldogs' flirtation with Hall goes back to last year's trading period and they are still in need of a key forward to complement their attack.

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    Football manager James Fantasia this week repeated the Dogs' interest in the controversial figure.

    "You can never say never, especially a player of his quality," Fantasia said.

    "With ageing players, they'd need a strong medical and make sure all the boxes are ticked.

    "He played pretty well the other day (against Adelaide) and most opposition sides still have a healthy respect for him. We wouldn't rule it out, but that also doesn't mean we'll be overly aggressive (in signing Hall) either."

    Sydney coach Paul Roos said yesterday he wasn't surprised Hall was considering walking out on the Swans.

    "I genuinely stand here and I don't know what's going to happen, and I think that's what Barry is saying in his article," Roos said.

    "It's just a natural thing for him to think about, all those sorts of things that were mentioned in the paper."

    Roos said the club would make a decision on Hall's future before the Round 16 game against Carlton, when Hall returned from his latest suspension.

    He described the hard man as a "revered figure" at the Swans.

    "Whatever happens, we'll certainly take into consideration Barry Hall as well as the footy club," Roos said.

    "I want a positive outcome for the footy club and for Barry Hall.

    "If he plays again next year and it doesn't happen to be at this football club, I'll be the first one to ring him and wish him all the best."

    Hall revealed in his weekly newspaper column that he seriously considered retiring after the Rutten incident.

    But, after talking to teammate Leo Barry and his family, the veteran forward changed his mind.

    "The easy thing to do would be to walk away and take up boxing. But what would I be? Barry Hall the boxer, but also Barry Hall the disgraced ex-footballer," he wrote.

    "The perception of me might not change drastically between now and when I do finish up, but I want to go out with some good games under my belt and prove my worth as a footy player."


    I'm starting to warm to the idea.
    The curse is dead.
  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #2
    Re: Hope for Hall.

    Welsh retires for Hall... hmmm.

    Rocket seemed to be the only coach who could keep his head on straight. If Eade thinks he can do it again and Grant and Cordy need more time, a big forward so they can play out of the pocket of flank, the Hall in the PSD for someone we got from the PSD could be ok.

    Strictly performance based contract only.

    Then i'd warm to the idea too.
    Last edited by bulldogtragic; 04-07-2009, 10:19 AM.
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    • Desipura
      WOOF Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 4344

      #3
      Re: Hope for Hall.

      Unlike some poeple, I have always been open minded about obtaining Hall. Don't tell me he is not good for at least 50 goals as well as making others stand taller. He will receive quality disposal from our midfield and has not had any major injuries in recent times.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Hope for Hall.

        It worries me we are willing to take him. The only way it could work would be the performance based contract as bulldogtragic said. If Welsh was retiring I guess it would be nice to have him for a couple of years..but its such a risk. :/

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        • Desipura
          WOOF Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 4344

          #5
          Re: Hope for Hall.

          Originally posted by alexxx
          It worries me we are willing to take him. The only way it could work would be the performance based contract as bulldogtragic said. If Welsh was retiring I guess it would be nice to have him for a couple of years..but its such a risk. :/
          Name me a rich person who did not take a risk?

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          • Missing Dog
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8501

            #6
            Re: Hope for Hall.

            This is a risk that we must make for the devolpment of the kids and for a crack at the flag he will need a short leash but I believe Rocet can handle him.

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            • The Pie Man
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2008
              • 3497

              #7
              Re: Hope for Hall.

              I'd take him in the PSD in a heartbeat - if it doesn't work out, twas worth a try.

              Forgetting the silly biff he's handed out in frustration, he's still playing good footy. Cooney or Murphy onto his chest 35 out, not a bad thought.
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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Hope for Hall.

                I wasn't to sure about this, but maybe it could work.

                Plus, he would teach the young guys an enormous amount.

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                • Desipura
                  WOOF Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4344

                  #9
                  Re: Hope for Hall.

                  Originally posted by JH40
                  I wasn't to sure about this, but maybe it could work.

                  Plus, he would touch the young guys an enormous amount.
                  Look, Im all for him playing for us, however that is going too far.

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18027

                    #10
                    Re: Hope for Hall.

                    Originally posted by JH40
                    I wasn't to sure about this, but maybe it could work.

                    Plus, he would touch the young guys an enormous amount.
                    Michael Jackson thread
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Hope for Hall.

                      Sorry guys, teach.

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                      • BornInDroopSt'54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 5254

                        #12
                        Re: Hope for Hall.

                        Originally posted by Desipura
                        Unlike some poeple, I have always been open minded about obtaining Hall. Don't tell me he is not good for at least 50 goals as well as making others stand taller. He will receive quality disposal from our midfield and has not had any major injuries in recent times.
                        As you said on the other thread, his punching is probably a result of frustration at poor delivery and a game plan that doesn't suit him. With our boys hitting him on the chest and in front of his outstretched arms, he'll be sweet natured. He'll have something to prove, as he says in the article:
                        "The easy thing to do would be to walk away and take up boxing. But what would I be? Barry Hall the boxer, but also Barry Hall the disgraced ex-footballer".
                        I don't know about him touching "the young guys an enormous amount" but he would bring a lot to a club he apparently supported before he played AFL.
                        Footscray Football Republic.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #13
                          Re: Hope for Hall.

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          Michael Jackson thread
                          That is just wrong on so many levels.

                          But on a more serious note, now that he is dead, do we revert to back to making Gary Glitter references in this realm of behaviour?
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                          • The Coon Dog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7579

                            #14
                            Re: Hope for Hall.

                            Rocket & Plugger thrived together when most felt he couldn't be controlled.
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                            • Rocco Jones
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6931

                              #15
                              Re: Hope for Hall.

                              I posted a fair bit on BigFooty in the days following the Adelaide game in support of having a strong look at Hall.

                              The main point I made is that we can't chase him hard. If we have to work hard to convince him to pick us over boxing, I think he will be a failure.

                              What Hall needs to be looking from us isn't money but redemption and I don't think there's a club that can potentially offer that more than us.

                              I loved this from Hall....

                              "The easy thing to do would be to walk away and take up boxing. But what would I be? Barry Hall the boxer, but also Barry Hall the disgraced ex-footballer," he wrote.

                              "The perception of me might not change drastically between now and when I do finish up, but I want to go out with some good games under my belt and prove my worth as a footy player."

                              He is still putting up quality KP forward numbers. Last year he averaged the highest amount of contested marks and this season he is in the top 10 for total contested marks in the league despite missing a couple of games. He has kicked 31 goals from 10 games this year.

                              I don't think we will face strong opposition to get Hall. You would probably have to be a contender that also doesn't have a KP forward to be interested in him and I don't think there are many other teams that fall into that category. That's a point that drove me slightly batty when discussing it with other BF posters. The notion that it's going to destroy the structure of our list because he is too old. Getting in older players only hurt the structure of your list if you give up an early pick or they are holding another player in a similar position back. The Swans seem desperate to get rid of him, Roos and Kirk prompting him to retire. I also don't think he would be holding anyone back as our KP forward prospects would probably be used sparingly anyway next year. I actually believe it would benefit someone like Grant to learn from a quality KP forward and be given some freedom when he plays alongside him.

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