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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    #31
    Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

    Originally posted by Dale
    I have been a FOOTSCRAY suporter my 30 years of life i am a gold premiership member and i don' t know about you but i am sick of GALLANT EFFORT, WELL DONE , JUST LOST, ALMOST. Why is it when we want our team to shine we go missing i am sick of this. if we are relying on someone as un coordinated and unskilled and as pathetic as Mitch Hahn to kick winning scores then i think
    Mitch could have kicked the winning goal??
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Before I Die
      Senior Player
      • Jul 2008
      • 1031

      #32
      Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      That's the trick though. We have a set list and we knew that at the start of the season. The forward line broke down but it's not necessarily just because we don't have a genuine key forward.
      Could someone please explain to me the justification for saying that the forward line broke down? Is it simply because we didn't win?
      Collingwood had 11 different goal scorers, none of which were their FF or CHF or their 3rd tall forward. They scored one more point than us. Did their forward line also break down? Were they let down by their lack of quality tall forwards?
      The Angels have the phone box. [SIZE="2"]Don't blink![/SIZE]

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      • Remi Moses
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 14785

        #33
        Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        I heard all sorts of comments in the crowd from Greg Norman to Ian Baker Finch.

        I love the man, but Noth last year, Cats this year, and touching the ball on the line...
        yeah but at least he doesn't hang out with Christopher Wayne Hudson

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

          I don't think our forward line broke down at all. We dominated inside 50's, but most of the time we were horrid when moving the ball forward. Made stupid decisions, thumbled, and kept looking for the extra option when the best was to just put it behind the sticks.

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          • Bulldog4life
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 9607

            #35
            Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

            Originally posted by Dale
            I have been a FOOTSCRAY suporter my 30 years of life i am a gold premiership member and i don' t know about you but i am sick of GALLANT EFFORT, WELL DONE , JUST LOST, ALMOST. Why is it when we want our team to shine we go missing i am sick of this. if we are relying on someone as un coordinated and unskilled and as pathetic as Mitch Hahn to kick winning scores then i think
            Are you sure you're 30!

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              #36
              Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

              Our forays into the forward line were haphazard, and the ball was being floated above the forwards heads. How are short forwards meant to take those grabs? How many marks in a pack do they want a little bloke like Higgins to take? Its been happening all season. After tonight I've changed my mind: we need Hall.

              I'm really dirty on Griffen. For every good thing he does he cancels it out with something poor, like trying to break a tackle or go around a man or wait too long, all the while there is a clear option to kick or handball to a team mate in the clear that he ignores. His kicking is over-rated. Badly. I'd be interested in seeing his turnovers/holding the balls over his career. I think he'd be in the top two or three in the club.

              I think Welsh, Eagleton, Hahn are playing their last season.

              As a team its disturbing how we offer so few options to go to when our player has the ball, either in defense or into the forward line.

              Lake, Picken, Higgins were very good.

              Hill lacks the intensity to compete in finals.

              Overall, this playing list is not good enough to win a premiership.

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              • Remi Moses
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 14785

                #37
                Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

                Originally posted by Dale
                I have been a FOOTSCRAY suporter my 30 years of life i am a gold premiership member and i don' t know about you but i am sick of GALLANT EFFORT, WELL DONE , JUST LOST, ALMOST. Why is it when we want our team to shine we go missing i am sick of this. if we are relying on someone as un coordinated and unskilled and as pathetic as Mitch Hahn to kick winning scores then i think
                Bit harsh on Hahn who has been disappointing this season,he cannot get into a contest just way of the pace . maybe time to give J.Grant a gig. As stated previously our lack of defensive run was shown out tonight,blokes not willing to run back really hurt us. Our run and willingness to take risks has hurt Collingwood in the past,but for some unknown reason we went into our shells.The final term [nothing to lose] bugger me we start to run and carry and take risks.

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                • KT31
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 5454

                  #38
                  Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

                  Originally posted by Dale
                  I have been a FOOTSCRAY suporter my 30 years of life i am a gold premiership member and i don' t know about you but i am sick of GALLANT EFFORT, WELL DONE , JUST LOST, ALMOST. Why is it when we want our team to shine we go missing i am sick of this. if we are relying on someone as un coordinated and unskilled and as pathetic as Mitch Hahn to kick winning scores then i think
                  I as disapointed as the next suportor but this is hard on a team who have lost two games by a kick in eight weeks.
                  They have stood up pretty hard the last two months.
                  It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                  • The Underdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6808

                    #39
                    Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

                    Originally posted by Dale
                    I have been a FOOTSCRAY suporter my 30 years of life i am a gold premiership member and i don' t know about you but i am sick of GALLANT EFFORT, WELL DONE , JUST LOST, ALMOST. Why is it when we want our team to shine we go missing i am sick of this. if we are relying on someone as un coordinated and unskilled and as pathetic as Mitch Hahn to kick winning scores then i think
                    I'm sick of people who think they're entitled to anything just because they support a football team. There's no promises. We may never win a premiership and you'll have to learn how to deal with that. If you're sick of it then maybe you should give stamp collecting a shot. It's way relaxing and non competitive (to a point). And to accuse Mitch of being pathetic is poor form, as is not finishing your sentences properly especially as I was very keen to see what came after the words "I think".
                    I look forward to Chapter 2.
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                    Drop that phone
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                    • Before I Die
                      Senior Player
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1031

                      #40
                      Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

                      Originally posted by Stefcep
                      Overall, this playing list is not good enough to win a premiership.
                      FFS!

                      We lost to the 2nd side by 2 points. We lost to the 4th side by 1 point. We lost to the top side by 28 points. Over the last 9 rounds we have lost only 2 games. One by one point, the other by two points. We are currently 3rd on the ladder.

                      Take a Bex and have a lie down, then see how you feel in the morning.
                      The Angels have the phone box. [SIZE="2"]Don't blink![/SIZE]

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                      • Missing Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8501

                        #41
                        Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

                        Originally posted by Before I Die
                        Could someone please explain to me the justification for saying that the forward line broke down? Is it simply because we didn't win?
                        Collingwood had 11 different goal scorers, none of which were their FF or CHF or their 3rd tall forward. They scored one more point than us. Did their forward line also break down? Were they let down by their lack of quality tall forwards?
                        Collingwood delivered to the forwards with purpose and intent. That's beacause:
                        1. The delivery was out in front.
                        2. The forwards were always moving to create an option.

                        OTOH we delivered high floating balls to contests AND the forwards offered no other option. MAybe the delivery was like that BECAUSE the forwards offered nothing. No leads into space. NOTHING. Its embarassing that Higgins has to go up in a pack to earn a mark: they should be hitting him on the chest out in front.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          #42
                          Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

                          Originally posted by Remi Moses
                          yeah but at least he doesn't hang out with Christopher Wayne Hudson
                          Not many people do now...
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #43
                            Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

                            Quick notes from me:

                            Minson: Just relax, take a breath and don't worry about the crowd, opponents, etc.

                            Williams: Very poor performance. back to Williamstown. (saw him in first half running around the ground alone no clue where he was going or who he was playing on.)

                            Too many errors, too many inaccurate shots at goal.

                            And most of all TERRIBLE UMPIRING!!!!

                            P.S. Sorry for any spelling mistakes or incorrect opinion as i've had a few beers and am very tired

                            All in all, happy we made a come back and didn't end up losing by the 5-6 goals to make us look like pretenders, instead of contenders.

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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501

                              #44
                              Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

                              Originally posted by Before I Die
                              FFS!

                              We lost to the 2nd side by 2 points. We lost to the 4th side by 1 point. We lost to the top side by 28 points. Over the last 9 rounds we have lost only 2 games. One by one point, the other by two points. We are currently 3rd on the ladder.

                              Take a Bex and have a lie down, then see how you feel in the morning.
                              Been to the St Kilda game, Geelong game and this one. Its the WAY we get beaten for 75% of the game, and then save face at the end that says to me the list is simply not good enough. Much as it pains me to say it.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                #45
                                Re: Thoughts about tonights game.

                                Originally posted by Stefcep
                                Been to the St Kilda game, Geelong game and this one. Its the WAY we get beaten for 75% of the game, and then save face at the end that says to me the list is simply not good enough. Much as it pains me to say it.
                                I agree, the result absolutely flattered us. Don't let flattery blind you from issues that could have led us to being beaten by 45-60 points. Some poor performances, some out coaching for some periods, inability to follow gameplan and a major lack of discipline for frees in front of goal and stupid 50m penalties. Don't let the result or the flattering margin cover up things that need to be dealt with.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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