The Collingwood rules

[LostDoggy]

I know this a broken record for me but it would be great to get an explaination.
How come hands in the back whether your a Pie forward or backman doing it is never paid against them?
Heath Shaw and Harry O'Brien were allowed to do as they pleased against our forwards. Shaw smashed Johnson continually after he marked. Check the first contest of the game and it got worse all game.
They will win 20 straight with the umps on their side.

I broken my own rule in going to a Collingwood game last night as I get too upset and can't stand their ferals.

[The Coon Dog]

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[Missing Dog]

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What's the rule for shepperding? How close does the ball have to be before you can sheppard an opponent away? Cloke was doing 25 meters away as team mate was running on the wing.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Does the hands-in-the-back rule still exist?

It seems to me the umpires have come to the same conclusion as the rest of us, KB & his mates are idiots and we're all better off if we ignore them.

[Go_Dogs]

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Hargrave got a free given against him for interference on Davis (who wouldn't have marked the ball anyway) then about 5 minutes later Higgins in blocked out of a marking contest 2 against 1 and no free. Admittedly Hargrave did take his eyes off the ball, and I'm unsure if the Pies defenders did, but a block is a block is a block.

Johnson isn't going to get any frees because he keeps playing every bit of contact he gets up. It's almost like the umpires want to pay frees against him too, because the holding the ball decision on him was a pretty tough one.




Overall I didn't think the umpiring was too bad. I've definitely seen worse.

[LostDoggy]

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Johnson isn't going to get any frees because he keeps playing every bit of contact he gets up. It's almost like the umpires want to pay frees against him too, because the holding the ball decision on him was a pretty tough one.

How do you play up for a free when you are pushed in the back in the first minutes of the game after taking a mark? This is usually an automatic 50-not in the marking contest, no need for Shaw to push in the back. This decision set the standard on night.
There was a worse one in the 3rd quarter to Johnson against Shaw. He missed both shots.
If you get 50 for a 1 sec grab (Aker) or cos they drop the ball(Minson) then both of Johnsons were 50 too.

[The Underdog]

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Does the hands-in-the-back rule still exist?

It seems to me the umpires have come to the same conclusion as the rest of us, KB & his mates are idiots and we're all better off if we ignore them.

Based on last night's game, no. We can't get upset, they didn't pay it either way.

There was some poor decisions against us last night but we made our own bed.

[LostDoggy]

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Based on last night's game, no. We can't get upset, they didn't pay it either way.

Well if it rule then it should be used. Next week will they pay them?
There were a number of clear cut ones, Cloke and O'Brien a few times. I don't recall any of our players doing it. So its our fault cos we know the rules and the umps aren't giving them?

[The Underdog]

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Well if it rule then it should be used. Next week will they pay them?
There were a number of clear cut ones, Cloke and O'Brien a few times. I don't recall any of our players doing it. So its our fault cos we know the rules and the umps aren't giving them?

I remember Murphy doing it once in front of me. We'd already had one not paid our way so I was happy they were at least being consistent.

[angelopetraglia]

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They got away with hands in the back all night. Was so frustrating. In particular Harry O'Brien and Heath Shaw. Every single time they were either holding on or hands in the back. I can't recall us getting any frees in our forward line all night for a free in a marking contest.

[AndrewP6]

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I'm on record (broken record??) as to my view of the monkeys...sorry, "umpires". So I'm not going to repeat myself. "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all". Our actions/inactions cost us last night, but the monkeys are clueless. Commentators on Foxtel replay made mention that one ump (can't remember which one) wouldn't pay "that" in a lesser game.

There, I hardly said a thing.

[mighty_west]

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I actually said last night that i thought the umpiring was the worst it's been all season, yet watching the last quarter replay on Foxtel when i got home, i thought we actually got the rub of the green in that final term, i probably won;t bother watching the first 3 quarters again, but it's amazing how much worse the umpring looks at th game, with all the emotions running through whilst supporting.

A few Collingwood nimrods called SEN last night claiming that their was some sort of conspiracy against Collingwood and screaming blue murder with the umps from last nights game, yet Mark Fine as a neutral supporter said he thought the umpiring was ok.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Based on last night's game, no. We can't get upset, they didn't pay it either way.

There was some poor decisions against us last night but we made our own bed.

I think you've taken my post the wrong way. I had no problems with the umpiring last night.

My comment was a general one about how the rules committee brings in dumb rules and the umpires take it apon themselves to ignore it.

That's a good thing.

[Topdog]

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We certainly got the rub of the green in the last quarter. That trip that wasn't paid, a holding a ball that wasn't paid and 1 or 2 others that I cant remember right now.

[The Underdog]

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I think you've taken my post the wrong way. I had no problems with the umpiring last night.

My comment was a general one about how the rules committee brings in dumb rules and the umpires take it apon themselves to ignore it.

That's a good thing.

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you were upset, it was more intended as a comment on the general feeling in other posts. I agree, hands in the back has disappeared, it wasn't payed at all last night. Like yourself, I'm not opposed to that. Pay a push by all means but I didn't see any obvious ones missed.