The Disappointments from Last Night that must be rectified.

[Missing Dog]

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I actually thought it was a smart play...moved closer to the middle, a better angle... he had the time, and a good shepherd...why not use it? it's not like he got run down (like he did earlier in the game!)

Yep was smart play to make certain of the goal, but only possible because Murph held a player off to give Griffen the time to get around on his right boot, otherwise Griffen would have been run down.

[AndrewP6]

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Yep was smart play to make certain of the goal, but only possible because Murph held a player off to give Griffen the time to get around on his right boot, otherwise Griffen would have been run down.

Exactly why I said we need to get better at blocking and shepherding...it creates opportunity..I saw it as a positive of Murphy's, not a negative of Griff.

[Missing Dog]

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Exactly why I said we need to get better at blocking and shepherding...it creates opportunity..I saw it as a positive of Murphy's, not a negative of Griff.

Oh Ok , misunderstood what you meant. And i agree as a team we don't sheppard enough, we don't block the path of opposition players that are chasing a team mate enough. S'ppose thats what they call the one percentres

[The Coon Dog]

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The freedom the Collingwood defence had at times made me realise just how much we missed Gia last night.

[LostDoggy]

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The freedom the Collingwood defence had at times made me realise just how much we missed Gia last night.

A lot of the goals we missed last night, he would've put away.

[AndrewP6]

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Oh, i forgot...never thought I'd say it, we have to improve our goal kicking accuracy...put the bloody ball between the two big sticks!

[Missing-Dog]

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Was I the only person angry with Aker early in the game(1st two quaters). He turned it over at least 4ish times when he was under little pressure and streaming towards our forward line. He played brilliantly otherwise by at least getting in those positions but it was annoying to see our 2nd or 3rd best decision maker (apart from Gilbee and Higgins) bomb long to Collingwood defenders or kick out of bounds, when normally he would have had 3 or 4 Goal assists.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Should have put him in defense last night, was dominated by Presti. Thought he was good last two weeks.

I thought Welsh could have been used as that leadup player as well. Get Presti up the ground where he has to be a footballer.

[Go_Dogs]

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A lot of the goals we missed last night, he would've put away.

Not just that, we might have had some decent balls coming into our F50.

For all the love Akermanis has received for his performance in the votes, some of his ball use was terrible going into the F50 - and he's meant to be one of our better distributors.

Cooney's running yes, we need more of that, Griffen's running , no way. The difference is that Cooney knows when to run and when to give it off, he has that explosive pace in the first 10-15 meters and he can foot pass on the run with precision. Grifffen tries to break every tackle no matter what, he doesn't have that burst like Cooney, and his kicking is erratic: sometimes he kicks 50 up and 50 down, sometimes its a mongrel punt, sometimes its a low kick at goal. Murphs shepperding was the reason Griffen had enough time to get on his right to kick the goal at the end, there was no Griffen had the confidence to snap on the left.

Stefcep, you have had an axe to grind with Griff for a while now. I actually thought his awareness in that situation was very good. He was about to go with the left, realised he had more time than that (good perceptive awareness of what was going on around him), poised and steadied and kicked the goal.

Griff was drafted as someone who was very good on both sides of his body as a kid. Not sure he's gone backwards and can't say that it's something I've noticed, although a few have made similar comments on the boards since Friday's game.

He does tend to kick long balls at times, but I get the impression he's under instruction to take the game on at every opportunity and try to kick over the zones. He has become a bit predictable though, and needs to choose his moments more carefully - much like Murph had done last year when he would turn and play on after every lead up mark.

[LostDoggy]

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I thought Welsh could have been used as that leadup player as well. Get Presti up the ground where he has to be a footballer.

Welsh looked like he copped a heavy knock, anyone know how?

[Bulldog Joe]

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While Eagleton was below par, what was really missing was his run. I wonder if he is struggling with successive 6 day breaks. For someone who generally runs as hard as he does recovery time is important. His skills were also down and that reduced recovery time could be the problem.

[1eyedog]

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Really harsh on Welsh, sounds like a bit of a scapegoat. Was good against the Hawks and some Sun journos had him as BOG against the Roos.

[LostDoggy]

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Really harsh on Welsh, sounds like a bit of a scapegoat. Was good against the Hawks and some Sun journos had him as BOG against the Roos.

Agreed Hill and Eagleton were just as bad and havent been as good recently.

Disappointed more with the Cooneys and Griffens.

[LostDoggy]

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P***** me off that we won so many clearances, and looked dangerous bringing it out, only to bomb it long to no one... or to 1 on 2 or 3 contests... We need Murphy forward... we need to work harder to block/shepherd teammates. On the replay, Murph's block was a massive factor in Griffen's late goal. I think our tackling needs work - the intensity is better than previous seasons, just don't think we're sticking them enough, or convincingly enough. Could be a long month without Gia, but there's talent there. Need people to step up (Coons, Griff, Murph, et al)

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head AP6, I get very frustrated when our tackles don't stick, and the opposition get away with the ball anyway I also agree, we need to sheperd teammates more, & protect the player with the ball. It seems to have gone out of our game (can't say I look at other teams much). I think Cooney is running into better form, when you remember he hasn't had a proper pre-season, and my boy Griff, well, it did hearten me to see Friday night when he made a mistake, he busted a gut and did a fantastic smother. You don't mind a mistake when you can see extra effort into making another play go our way. Thanks for reminding me about Gia - I reckon he would have straightened us up in front of goals for sure

[LostDoggy]

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Really harsh on Welsh, sounds like a bit of a scapegoat. Was good against the Hawks and some Sun journos had him as BOG against the Roos.

I agree.

The improvement Welsh has made to the team, as well as his performances, have been great. One bad game doesn't mean you should be automatically dropped, he will probably bounce back this week.