Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

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  • alwaysadog
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2006
    • 1436

    #46
    Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
    The sweet, beautiful sound of an Essendon supporter whinging.... ahhh, music to my ears.
    One of the most beautiful sounds in football and a guaranteed indication that they are getting done.
    [I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]

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    • alwaysadog
      Senior Player
      • Dec 2006
      • 1436

      #47
      Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

      Originally posted by Stefcep
      I agree. In fact, the free kick count should hardly ever be even. The fact that the free kick count IS even in many (most?) game is the real concern
      Have always thought that the umps get a 3/4 time count and try to even it out in the last 1/4. If not it's a supreme mystery why this happens so often. That it didn't happen on Friday last says all that needs to be said about how the bombres were playing.
      [I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 15118

        #48
        Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

        Originally posted by alwaysadog
        That it didn't happen on Friday last says all that needs to be said about how the bombres were playing.
        5 of our 20 free kicks were from run down holding the ball decisions, all clear as day. We can't be penalised for the lack of awareness of Bombers players. 14-9 in favour of the winning side doesn't sound as bad. I think we may have gotten the rub of the green but I don't think there was anything out of the ordinary, with the exception of Minson's 50m penalty.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • Missing Dog
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8501

          #49
          Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

          Originally posted by alwaysadog
          Have always thought that the umps get a 3/4 time count and try to even it out in the last 1/4.
          I can guarantee you 100% that it does not happen.

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          • Missing Dog
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8501

            #50
            Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

            Originally posted by aker39
            I can guarantee you 100% that it does not happen.

            OK so why do most games end with about even free kicks?

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              #51
              Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

              Originally posted by Stefcep
              OK so why do most games end with about even free kicks?
              Do they?

              Here are the stats from Round 16.

              Essendon 9
              Bulldogs 20

              Carlton 15
              Sydney 10

              Geelong 20
              Melbourne 16

              Freo 16
              Brisbane 21

              Pies 21
              Hawks 17

              Power 22
              Eagles 17


              Tigers 14
              Kangas 18

              St Kilda 16
              Crows 7

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              • Topdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7483

                #52
                Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

                How dare you use facts in a witchhunt aker39?

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                • alwaysadog
                  Senior Player
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1436

                  #53
                  Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

                  Originally posted by aker39
                  Do they?

                  Here are the stats from Round 16.

                  Essendon 9
                  Bulldogs 20

                  Carlton 15
                  Sydney 10

                  Geelong 20
                  Melbourne 16

                  Freo 16
                  Brisbane 21

                  Pies 21
                  Hawks 17

                  Power 22
                  Eagles 17


                  Tigers 14
                  Kangas 18

                  St Kilda 16
                  Crows 7
                  The stats I'd like to see are those for our games with the 3/4 time and the final free kick counts.
                  [I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7483

                    #54
                    Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

                    Originally posted by alwaysadog
                    The stats I'd like to see are those for our games with the 3/4 time and the final free kick counts.
                    So this only happens in Bulldogs games?

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                    • Missing Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8501

                      #55
                      Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

                      Originally posted by aker39
                      Do they?

                      Here are the stats from Round 16.

                      Essendon 9
                      Bulldogs 20

                      Carlton 15
                      Sydney 10

                      Geelong 20
                      Melbourne 16

                      Freo 16
                      Brisbane 21

                      Pies 21
                      Hawks 17

                      Power 22
                      Eagles 17


                      Tigers 14
                      Kangas 18

                      St Kilda 16
                      Crows 7
                      I'd like to see the season results. Two games aside, there's no more than 5 frees difference, still pretty close, in one round. And do the whole season and see what you get

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                      • Missing Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8501

                        #56
                        Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

                        Originally posted by Stefcep
                        I'd like to see the season results. Two games aside, there's no more than 5 frees difference, still pretty close, in one round. And do the whole season and see what you get
                        I'm not going to waste my time posting the seasons results, but I will post the 1st 3 rounds.

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                        • Missing Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8501

                          #57
                          Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

                          Round 1


                          Ric 15
                          Car 23

                          Haw 29
                          Gee 35

                          Col 14
                          Ade 18

                          Bri 26
                          Wce 30

                          Stk 24
                          Syd 16

                          Mel 25
                          Ntm 16

                          Por 19
                          Ess 19

                          Fre 21
                          WB 22

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                          • Missing Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8501

                            #58
                            Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

                            Round 2

                            Ade 11
                            Stk 29

                            Gee 21
                            Ric 31

                            Col 16
                            Mel 23

                            Car 17
                            Bri 21

                            Swa 30
                            Haw 25

                            Ess 21
                            Fre 18

                            WB 21
                            Ntm 20

                            Wce 20
                            Por 11

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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501

                              #59
                              Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

                              Round 3

                              Gee 15
                              Col 17

                              Stk 24
                              Eag 32

                              Bri 25
                              Syd 24

                              Car 26
                              Ess 21

                              Por 22
                              Mel 17

                              Ntm 32
                              Haw 21

                              Fre 24
                              Ade 15

                              WB 16
                              Ric 18

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                              • Missing Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8501

                                #60
                                Re: Umpiring tonight - an objective view please

                                Make of those stats what ever you like.

                                But do you really think someone is going to look at the scoreboard, see that the free kick count is lop sided, and think, I'm going to jepordise my career in the last quarter and pay some free kicks just to make sure that the free kick count is even.

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