Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67687

    #1

    Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

    Last time we played Morris on him and was clearly beaten. In the past few years, Morris has beaten Riewoldt, however, Riewoldt is in career best form and I believe a bit too strong and big for Morris. Riewoldt has been averaging 10 marks a game, 17.4 disposals per game and has kicked 50 goals 32 points, so lots of shots at goal.

    Should Lake take him on, or Williams, or do we go with Morris again?
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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10244

    #2
    Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

    Morris would have to take him surely; he has the past performances to back him up. Its too big an ask for Tommy Gun, and he would burn Brian on the lead.

    If he does get beaten, then we can always chuck Tommy on to him.

    Another option to consider is to double him. With Kossie all but out, Riewoldt is their sole focal point. Having Shags drop back in front of him and thus cutting off supply could lead to great frustration for them, and even better rebound out of the back 50 for us. Harbrow isn't beyond shutting out Milne, so I feel we could use Shaggy in a Harley/Maxwell role this game without fear of getting burned.
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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

      Morris starts on him - the psychological factor is a big one and as he has beaten Riewoldt quite a few times he may have the mental wood on him regardless of how they are travelling at any time (ie. Hawthorn over Collingwood).

      If Morris is getting beaten, Williams has all the tools to go with him (apart from footy smarts, but this matters less when you are playing a purely negating role).. not many genuine talls in the AFL with aerobic and athletic capacity of these two (probably Franklin and Pav are the only others in the same league).

      Lake shouldn't take Riewoldt except as a last resort, as he will be dragged all over the ground and won't be able to play the rebounding role he does so well. Playing on a lesser tall will also allow Brian to be the third man up at all forward 50 marking contests involving Riewoldt.

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15547

        #4
        Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

        Morris is best suited, but will need help up the ground which didn't happen in our earlier clash this season.

        Lake's role will be interesting. Last time around he matched up on a lesser opponent in Gwilt, but was all at sea in terms of when to zone off, etc.. Now that his confidence is high I hope he has a big influence on proceedings.

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13387

          #5
          Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

          IMO if Kosi plays then Lake will go to him but if Morris goes to Riewoldt I do not see a match up for Tommy down there. I'd rather Tom on Saint Nick and Hargrave on Milne perhaps and Morris on Schneider or Goddard if he goes forward.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • Sockeye Salmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6365

            #6
            Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

            Williams.

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5839

              #7
              Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

              I'd say Williams. This is the kind of test he needs to be given...he showed that he's got the ability to shut down key forwards in the Hawthorn game last year. What's his tank like though? That might be the only problem.

              If Kosi is out, they might bring in someone like Maguire who has been playing forward for their VFL side? Lake could play on them, with Morris on Schneider/Goddard/floating forward. Harbrow on Milne is best I think, there's no better defensive match up for Jarrod.

              Will be interesting to see how Eade deals with it though...will show just how much faith he has in Williams.

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              • The Pie Man
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2008
                • 3505

                #8
                Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

                It has to be Williams - I challenge the view Morris has a good record on Riewoldt.... he's tried damn hard but has lost out more than he's won on him. We have to see how Tom can perform on someone with the aerobic capacity such as Riewoldt, and has the physical attributes (i.e height) to match it with him.
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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10244

                  #9
                  Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

                  Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                  Williams.
                  Just because?
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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13387

                    #10
                    Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    Just because?
                    It seems like the right match up clearly. Who else will Williams play on? Sorry to cut in on these posts
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10244

                      #11
                      Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

                      Originally posted by 1eyedog
                      It seems like the right match up clearly. Who else will Williams play on? Sorry to cut in on these posts
                      If you look beyond the physical similarites, Riewoldt will smash Williams. Morris has proven to be consistently better over the journey.

                      Williams to go to Gardiner/King/McEvoy.
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • Missing-Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3102

                        #12
                        Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

                        Morris to take him. I dont think Tom has the tank to go with him. What we will need is the midfield to flood forward and fill in the spaces

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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6595

                          #13
                          Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

                          With Kosi out I'd expect Riewoldt to spend a far bit of time at full forward. I'd have Lake play on him, he's in arguably career best form so it would be the best forward on the best backman. Tommy would be my second choice if Riewoldt got a hold of Lake, physically he's our best matchup. Morris would be my last option, Riewoldt toweled him up last time and the height differance is fairly substantial even if Dale does have the biggest heart in the business.

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                          • alwaysadog
                            Senior Player
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1436

                            #14
                            Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            Another option to consider is to double him. With Kossie all but out, Riewoldt is their sole focal point. Having Shags drop back in front of him and thus cutting off supply could lead to great frustration for them, and even better rebound out of the back 50 for us. Harbrow isn't beyond shutting out Milne, so I feel we could use Shaggy in a Harley/Maxwell role this game without fear of getting burned.
                            The real solution as you suggest is not just a one to one strategy but to a) have our mid fielders cut his supply of preferred ball and b) to have other defenders ready to block his space on leads and c) have others ready to help out by punching the ball away in contests and d) to clog up his space and those of his helpers like Milne.

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              #15
                              Re: Riewoldt - The Danger man, Who matches up on him?

                              Originally posted by Happy Days
                              Just because?
                              This week's not the be all to end all.

                              I want Williams to see that Riewoldt is human and can be beaten. And to learn what's required to do it.

                              And to see where Williams is at.

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