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Saints have a forward line, we don't. We're under pressure when we go forward and what do you know, our dwarf forward line is ineffective. Hahn & Welsh have done nothing.
Can't see a comeback tonight. Hope I'm wrong - lucky I have to work tonight and can't listen to this crap anymore.
Lots of fumbling on both sides, but more forward line and mid field pressure from the saints. Eagle has been very hard at it and laid a number of good tackles but undone his hard work by being caught himself and fumbling a few times.
24 points down now.
Higgins gone with a hamstring and Murphy may be the same (yet to be confirmed).
18 points now, goal to Eagleton
The Angels have the phone box. [SIZE="2"]Don't blink![/SIZE]
Lots of fumbling on both sides, but more forward line and mid field pressure from the saints. Eagle has been very hard at it and laid a number of good tackles but undone his hard work by being caught himself and fumbling a few times.
24 points down now.
Higgins gone with a hamstring and Murphy may be the same (yet to be confirmed).
18 points now, goal to Eagleton
Higgins has done a hammy, I thought it was just the ongoing problem with his groin, and he'd further aggravated it. Doesn't look good for him for the immediate future.
I don't think Murphy has done his hammy, merely feeling tightness, which could be a pre-cursor to it going, so it will be a brave club doctor that Okay's him to come on again in the 4th quarter.
Going to be hard though for us with 3 players down.
Good work rate by our boys in the 3rd. Have given ourselves some chance if we can get on the scoreboard early in the last.
Came across a live stream, and it looks worse on TV.
Any hope was snuffed out by the interchange snafu right at the start of the last.
Since then it's been a comedy of errors.
What makes this worse is that Saints are not just having fun with it and are running away.
And what makes it even worse than that is that Milne is having a field day.... and I cannot stand that little rat.
WE're going to be belted in the last now.
We wouldn't have beaten the Cats or Hawks today, flogged by Saints tonight and beaten by the Pies. And a style and forward line that fails against the best sides.
We won't cause much trouble for other sides in September.
We wouldn't have beaten the Cats or Hawks today, flogged by Saints tonight and beaten by the Pies. And a style and forward line that fails against the best sides.
We won't cause much trouble for other sides in September.
I think we'll do okay in the finals, but I can see another pre-lim loss when we come up against either Geelong or Saints, and a possibility we could get rolled by Collingwood.
Either way we have some distance to bridge between the elite sides and will need some big improvement over the summer if we are to take the next step, and in addition we will need one of our young tall forwards to press for game time.
We could do worse than have a look at the way the Saints have gone about things this year.
I think we'll do okay in the finals, but I can see another pre-lim loss when we come up against either Geelong or Saints, and a possibility we could get rolled by Collingwood.
Either way we have some distance to bridge between the elite sides and will need some big improvement over the summer if we are to take the next step, and in addition we will need one of our young tall forwards to press for game time.
We could do worse than have a look at the way the Saints have gone about things this year.
I just don't understand those who believe that we have a viable system and forward line under top team pressure.
I just don't understand those who believe that we have a viable system and forward line under top team pressure.
In the middle of last year would you have believed those who said Ray is good enough to be in the best 22 of a side which has won 17 in a row? Before the season started would you have believed that the Saints with the essentially the same list as last year would be that side?
We lost to Gellong by 2 points and Collingwood by 1 point. Are they the other top teams you refer to? I think our system is very good and our forward line is viable, but I also believe that if Grant has a reasonable game tomorrow he should come in for Welsh.
The Angels have the phone box. [SIZE="2"]Don't blink![/SIZE]
I just don't understand those who believe that we have a viable system and forward line under top team pressure.
Too easy to say that DR. We got it in our forward 50 enough times tonight but the appalling lack of defensive pressure from our entire forward line was an indictment to the entire forward 6.
And to state the bleeding obvious, the 12 St Kilda goals directly from Dogs turnovers (of which only 2-3 were from strong St Kilda pressure) didn't help things.
I just don't understand those who believe that we have a viable system and forward line under top team pressure.
It's all well and good but we could have had Barry Hall, Tony Lockett and Dunstall in our forward line tonight and still only kicked 10 goals. We were just booting it into our forward line without looking most of the time and it was always going straight to one of the 5 loose defenders the Saints were playing.
Too easy to say that DR. We got it in our forward 50 enough times tonight but the appalling lack of defensive pressure from our entire forward line was an indictment to the entire forward 6.
And to state the bleeding obvious, the 12 St Kilda goals directly from Dogs turnovers (of which only 2-3 were from strong St Kilda pressure) didn't help things.
My concern is that this has been a problem for the best part of this season, we leak more goals from turnovers than all but a couple of other teams. I think only Freo or possibly West Coast are worse than us in this area.
Is this due to the style of game we play due to not having the long target to go to? That is, we need to play a riskier style of game in order to ensure we can get the ball quickly into our forward line. and if are skill are slightly off in moving the ball and we turn it over and all of a sudden it's easy for the opposition to hit us on the rebound as our guys are out of position.
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