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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7363

    Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

    Match Preview Round 18
    Western Bulldogs vs Fremantle
    Saturday 7:10pm, Docklands

    Last time they met:.
    It was WAY back in round 1 this year (on a sunny afternoon at Subiaco). We ran away to win 25.7 (157) to 13.16 (94)…but it really was a lot tighter than that – Freo came hard at us in the 3rd (5.4 to 4 straight) before we ran away with it late.
    Joe the Goose (aka Mitch Hahn) kicked 5 for us, Griff got 3 – all in the first 15 minutes I think – as did Eagle and Gilbee. Peake – who usually struggles to hit water falling out of a boat – somehow managed 3 for the Dockers.
    Duffield – in a sign of things to come – was named Fremantle’s best. He has had a terrific season. Just for something different, Matty Boyd was sensational for our mob.
    Murphy missed for us, Hayden missed for them.

    Form Guide:
    Freo – 15th – 4 wins

    Western Bulldogs – 3rd 11 wins
    Despite the variance in ladder position, the Dockers are coming off a win (in a woeful game) whilst the Dogs hope to bounce back from a very disappointing effort vs the Saints.

    The Selection Table
    Dockers:

    Well, Pavlich and Sandilands came back into the side last week – so that is good! Further to that, I suspect that the very good young forward Chris Mayne will return for his first AFL game of the season this weekend…his local form has been very good for a couple of weeks as he returns from (what I think was) a groin issue.
    The amazing thing about Fremantle is that they currently have 10 first year players in the side – which is why I don’t think there is any hope for Marcus Drum at that footy club.
    Van Berlo, Ruffles, Ballantyne, Broughton, Suban, Hill, Walters…I forget the rest. But it is truly incredible that they are doing this. I guess that is what happens when you turn over 14 players in one season, but it is still staggering to me that this is happened at what is supposed to be elite level sport.
    That said, the word from the source of truth (Dockerland.com) is that Ruffles is injured and will miss – shame as he kicked 2 last weekend and looked alright – and that a few others including Duffield may also miss with injury. Solomon has a tribunal appearance scheduled, so could miss as well. On the list to come in would be the aforementioned Mayne, Byron Schammer (a worse kick than Peake if that is possible), Luke Pratt (fast-ish winger/half-back type from Swans), Michael Walters (skittish small forward type who is nowhere near ready for AFL footy) and Daniel Gilmore (who never was ready for AFL footy and I cannot believe would get a game).
    Dogs:

    Higgins will definitely miss. Murphy will probably miss. Both of these things make me sad as I enjoy watching them play (and would whatever colors they wore – just pleased they wear rwb). Despite (besides??) the usual calls for Eagleton’s head, I am not sure there will be any other outs this week. I assume Gilbee will be back – other candidates to come in include Callan, Stack and Everitt…I would go for Stack as he is a bit different to the others already in the mix. There may be calls for O’Keefe as well but unless he has learnt to run since I last saw him I would put that in the ‘Unlikely – Glacier’ list of players.

    Key Match-ups
    Lake vs Pavlich – I really hope this happens, but have a feeling Pavlich will play in the midfield (again). He is a terrific forward though – good enough on the lead to worry Brian yet also strong enough to make sure those body on body contests aren’t completely one-sided.
    Hudson vs Sandilands – Sandilands is a dead-set monster. Hudson wont outruck him – he wont – but his willingness to fight for the footy on the deck will be the great equalizer.

    Cooney vs Schammer – Schammer has been effective in a couple of ‘outside stopper’ roles this year and Freo welcome him back just in time to take on possibly the most explosive midfielder in the comp – Adam Cooney. The scenario is pretty simple for the Dogs – to be successful, we need Coon running and bouncing his way down the ground – this hasn’t happened all season and we need to find a way to get it going.

    Hill vs Eagleton – I think Hill is Eagleton reincarnate (which makes my Docker’s loving brother weep) and it will be interesting to see if this works out. Hill is quicker than the Eagle now – and probably kicks more effectively – but rarely seems to realize who is opponent is and could be badly burned by the bald one.
    Harbrow vs Haydn Ballantyne – I am looking forward to this as well. Ballantyne is quick – really, really quick – and coming off the Milne experiment Harbrow needs to get straight ‘back on the horse’ so to speak. Ballantyne will quickly rocket up the charts of ‘most hated opposition players’ (he is mouthy, cheeky, small and kicks goals) in the next couple of years and despite only having played 3 or 4 games is a couple of years older than Harbrow…from a Dogs perspective I wonder if he gets ‘done’ this week whether he loses the back-pocket role for the rest of the year???

    Where it will be won or lost:

    Midfield. If Freo get enough of the footy to Pavlich, he will kick goals. If they struggle to do this and he has to go and actually play in the midfield, the game is gone and we will waltz to victory.
    Mitch Hahn always kicks a bag against the dud sides (yes Essendon, I am looking at you) and he will be a tough ask for someone like Broughton to handle.

    The Summary

    Freo are coming off a hard fought win in the Derby – the only game they actually seem to care about. They will have celebrated long and hard, they have nothing to play for and they are completely undermanned. I cannot see how they win this game.
    Their only hope is to take advantage of Sandilands dominance, get the ball forward through Haselby, Duffield and Mundy, and hope that Pavlich and Ballantyne can kick them a score. I don’t see it. They only managed 13 Points against Adelaide and 28 vs the Saints – I don’t see more than 50 being kicked vs us.
    The Dogs are too experienced – and at this point simply too good – to lose this match. The betting line in Melbourne should be 49.5 points and I would bet the over.
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  • Scraggers
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jun 2008
    • 3565

    #2
    Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

    Nice preview MJP ... I agree with you that Freo will struggle to score

    Fremantle have recruited well this year, with Hill, Suban, Van Berlo et al. but with limited game experience and coming up against a quick ball moving Bulldog outfit, I really don't see them giving us too much trouble

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    • Bulldog Revolution
      Coaching Staff
      • Dec 2006
      • 3926

      #3
      Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

      Nice one MJP

      Is Duffield the guy with the laser like foot who plays as a rebounding defender?

      I haven't seen them since they played Hawthorn on a Friday night earlier in the season

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15446

        #4
        Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

        Excellent preview mjp.

        Some excellent insight into a side most of us don't get to watch all that often (mostly by choice). I look forward to seeing most of their players live for the first time and get an idea to where Fremantle can head with these players.

        Personally I think this game comes at the worst possible time for us. Coming off a poor performance and with quite a few of our players out of form playing against a terribly under-manned team will not answer the questions we need answered. Yeah quite a few of our lesser likes will probably run into some nice form, but when push comes to shove against quality opponents they will probably let us down again.

        At the very least I hope we have a good win to help celebrate Johnno's record breaking game.

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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11248

          #5
          Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

          Fantastic preview, mjp.

          I believe young Ruffles tore his ACL late in the piece against the Eagles and will be out for the next 12 months.

          Because of the priority pick issue, the match-ups could end up being anything - they'll probably have Sandilands and Pavlich spending most of the time on the bench

          Agree Mantis, the next 2 weeks are essentially meaningless in relation to preparing us for the cut and thrust of up-coming finals intensity.
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          • Scraggers
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jun 2008
            • 3565

            #6
            Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

            Originally posted by Sedat
            Fantastic preview, mjp.

            I believe young Ruffles tore his ACL late in the piece against the Eagles and will be out for the next 12 months.

            Because of the priority pick issue, the match-ups could end up being anything - they'll probably have Sandilands and Pavlich spending most of the time on the bench

            Agree Mantis, the next 2 weeks are essentially meaningless in relation to preparing us for the cut and thrust of up-coming finals intensity.
            I disagree that they are meaningless ... to win and win well over the next two weeks, whilst the teams around us play each other (and potentially lose) is going to give us great confidence as we head into the last three games before the finals.

            Knowing that we are one (or two) game/s clear of our opposition and a cetainty to play finals footy will be a great boost for us.

            Conversely, if we were to struggle or (heaven forbid) lose ... we will lose all confidence and only be making up numbers in the finals.

            So as to preparing us for the cut and thrust of up-coming finals intensity ... playing with confidence will go a long way

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            • Desipura
              WOOF Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 4344

              #7
              Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

              Originally posted by Sedat
              Fantastic preview, mjp.

              I believe young Ruffles tore his ACL late in the piece against the Eagles and will be out for the next 12 months.

              Because of the priority pick issue, the match-ups could end up being anything - they'll probably have Sandilands and Pavlich spending most of the time on the bench

              Agree Mantis, the next 2 weeks are essentially meaningless in relation to preparing us for the cut and thrust of up-coming finals intensity.
              Meaningless??? You are kidding right? If say Everitt comes in and plays forward and plays well in the next 2 weeks, this will be great for his confidence as well as the teams. It will give us an added dimension to our forward line. Also guys like Welsh & Hill have an opportunity to find some form, all very important in the lead up to the finals.

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              • Missing Dog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8501

                #8
                Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

                Originally posted by Desipura
                Meaningless??? Also guys like Welsh & Hill have an opportunity to find some form, all very important in the lead up to the finals.

                Hill needs to find form against Brisbane, Geelong & Collingwood in the last 3 weeks of the season, not in the practice matches in the next 2 weeks.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14950

                  #9
                  Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

                  Originally posted by aker39
                  Hill needs to find form against Brisbane, Geelong & Collingwood in the last 3 weeks of the season, not in the practice matches in the next 2 weeks.
                  I think in the case of Hill, given his past month, finding form against the Mirboo North under 12s would be of help.
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                  • Missing Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8501

                    #10
                    Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    I think in the case of Hill, given his past month, finding form against the Mirboo North under 12s would be of help.
                    The past month has been against quality opposition.

                    We have seen him play well against Mirboo North before. That form counts for nothing.

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11248

                      #11
                      Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

                      Originally posted by Desipura
                      Meaningless??? You are kidding right? If say Everitt comes in and plays forward and plays well in the next 2 weeks, this will be great for his confidence as well as the teams. It will give us an added dimension to our forward line. Also guys like Welsh & Hill have an opportunity to find some form, all very important in the lead up to the finals.
                      I was being a little flippant with the term 'meaningless' but the reality is if Freo and (especially) West Coast aren't going to go hammer and tong (and both being on 4 wins, neither team will be going all out to win again for the season), then we really won't learn a hell of a lot from these matches. We might be able to do some fine-tuning on our game plan but even then it won't be under anything resembling finals-like intensity.

                      There are 8 precious premiership points at stake, which obviously adds meaning to these matches from a ladder position perspective. But we will know a hell of a lot more about our team, especially what they have learnt from the St Kilda and (to a lesser extent) Collingwood matches, when we front up to Brisbane at the Gabba, Geelong and Collingwood to round out our H&A season.
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66703

                        #12
                        Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

                        Excellent summary of the Freo team MJP.

                        Amazing they have ten first year players in the team, which means a huge rebuild for coming years. The dogs must not take this one lightly and really go in hard and ensure a big win.
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                        • Missing Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8501

                          #13
                          Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Amazing they have ten first year players in the team,
                          Don't want to hijack this thread, but even more amazing is the fact that the Eagles couldn't beat them. They are a pack of cheats.

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                          • Scraggers
                            Premiership Moderator
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 3565

                            #14
                            Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

                            Originally posted by aker39
                            Don't want to hijack this thread, but even more amazing is the fact that the Eagles couldn't beat them. They are a pack of cheats.
                            Who ... Eagles or Dockers ?

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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501

                              #15
                              Re: Preview: Round 18 vs Fremantle

                              Originally posted by Scraggers
                              Who ... Eagles or Dockers ?
                              Eagles

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