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  • Scorlibo
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2007
    • 3075

    The New Situation

    Okay, so although I am still fuming, I have taken a trip to the AFL site and had a go at the ladder predictor. The way things are now, it would be an almighty achievement for us to come third, with fourth being perhaps a fifty/fifty. However, do we really want to come fourth and be choked by St Kilda? Would it be more beneficial to come 5th and play one of Port Adelaide, Essendon and Hawthorn all of whom we have beat convincingly so far this year.

    The Doggies, as we all know, have Brisbane, Geelong and Collingwood in the run to the finals. Here is everyone else's situation:

    Collingwood: Adelaide (away), Richmond, Sydney (home), Bulldogs.
    Adelaide: Collingwood (home), Hawthorn (away), West Coast (home), Carlton (away).
    Brisbane: Essendon (away), Bulldogs (away), Port Adelaide (home), Sydney (away).
    Carlton: Port Adelaide (away), Melbourne, Adelaide (home).

    With a bit of excel wizadry, plugging in the probability of each team's individual games,

    Probability of the Dogs coming 3rd: 13% 4th: 39% 5th-8th: 48%

    Collingwood's probability of coming 3rd is 69%.

    So do we want 4th - the Saints - lose - then Brisbane/Carlton/Adelaide or...
    do we want 5th - Ess/Port/Haw - most likely win - then most probably the Pies or Cats?
    'And the Western suburbs erupt!'
  • mighty_west
    Coaching Staff
    • Feb 2008
    • 3417

    #2
    Re: The New Situation

    The way i'm feeling right now, doesn't matter who we play - straight sets , give me a few hours to cool down, might have a different opinion.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      #3
      Re: The New Situation

      If we finish 4th and lose, we play the winners from the bottom 4 at home. Likely Brisbane and Adelaide in that secario. I prefer that to sudden death. But what's it all matter, this was a not negotiable game today. I so i thought...
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • AndrewP6
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2009
        • 8142

        #4
        Re: The New Situation

        4th, for mine. Even so, I don't see us doing much damage in September - no, not solely based on today.
        [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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        • Rocco Jones
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jun 2008
          • 6924

          #5
          Re: The New Situation

          I did the predictor and had us coming 6th. I hope I am just being a negative nelly. I think that our season will end in the 2nd week of the finals.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            #6
            Re: The New Situation

            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
            I did the predictor and had us coming 6th. I hope I am just being a negative nelly. I think that our season will end in the 2nd week of the finals.
            Do you have us beating Carlton in week one??
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • angelopetraglia
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6795

              #7
              Re: The New Situation

              Hopefully Pies beat the Crows and Dons beat the Lions.

              That will still leave us a game and percentage clear in 4th.

              BUT ... our destiny is still in our hands.

              If we win the last three we will finish 3rd no matter what.

              I hope we can learn from today.

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6795

                #8
                Re: The New Situation

                Ladder predictor = impossible.

                Who have put today's result in it?

                Too many variables. Still 29 results yet to be decided.

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6924

                  #9
                  Re: The New Situation

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Do you have us beating Carlton in week one??
                  I have Adelaide coming in 7th and us beating them due to it being in Melbourne. Tonight's performance already has me changing my mind!

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                  • Rocco Jones
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6924

                    #10
                    Re: The New Situation

                    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                    Ladder predictor = impossible.

                    Who have put today's result in it?

                    Too many variables. Still 29 results yet to be decided.
                    Pretty much.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      #11
                      Re: The New Situation

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      I have Adelaide coming in 7th and us beating them due to it being in Melbourne. Tonight's performance already has me changing my mind!
                      I suppose going out in straight sets mean we get a lower pick. Are we tanking?
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Scorlibo
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3075

                        #12
                        Re: The New Situation

                        Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                        Ladder predictor = impossible.

                        Who have put today's result in it?

                        Too many variables. Still 29 results yet to be decided.
                        Yes I have put today's result in, I promise you I have considered every game for each of Collingwood, Adelaide, Carlton, Brisbane and us.
                        'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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                        • Rocco Jones
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6924

                          #13
                          Re: The New Situation

                          If I had some faith in the Bulldogs actually taking advantage of it, I would be really barracking hard for Essendon right now.

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                          • angelopetraglia
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6795

                            #14
                            Re: The New Situation

                            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                            If I had some faith in the Bulldogs actually taking advantage of it, I would be really barracking hard for Essendon right now.
                            Middle of next week, faith will be restored.

                            By Friday, we will be confident of victory against the Lions.

                            Saturday afternoon we will see no reason why we can't win the next three, snare third, upset the Cats in the first final and go straight into the prelim.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              #15
                              Re: The New Situation

                              Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                              Middle of next week, faith will be restored.

                              By Friday, we will be confident of victory against the Lions.

                              Saturday afternoon we will see no reason why we can't win the next three, snare third, upset the Cats in the first final and go straight into the prelim.
                              .... Saturday night....
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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