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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

    I've never been a defender of Rawlings, until now. Sports today was reporting Jade is "1,000,000 to 1" to get the Richmond coaching job after saying the culture at Richmond is poor. It was reported head-in-the-sand Richmond power brokers took exception to the moment of honesty.

    One, how can you ever fix a problem until someone says what they all actually know?

    Two, is there such a thing as being too honest? Because, if true, it's bullshit and Richscum will get another few years or the same old. Which i don't care about, but it would be an injustice for someone not to get the gig because they were honest.
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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10093

    #2
    Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

    Rawlings should have the coaching job by now; he's completely transformed the club in his time there. All things considered, breaking even is a phenominal achievement.

    I can undersand how his honesty can be a bad thing from a corporate point of view, but it has been refreshing, provided good value, and for the most part has been 100% correct.

    Appointing Rawlings is the right decision for Richmond going forward; so, of course, it won't happen. That club is an absolute shambles.
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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      #3
      Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

      On the "honesty is refreshing" scale, this is a 10. Unfortunately, I think it's also career suicide. How many job applicants would be successful, if, during a trial period, they stood up and said "The culture here sucks"?
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44344

        #4
        Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        I've never been a defender of Rawlings, until now. Sports today was reporting Jade is "1,000,000 to 1" to get the Richmond coaching job after saying the culture at Richmond is poor. It was reported head-in-the-sand Richmond power brokers took exception to the moment of honesty.

        One, how can you ever fix a problem until someone says what they all actually know?

        Two, is there such a thing as being too honest? Because, if true, it's bullshit and Richscum will get another few years or the same old. Which i don't care about, but it would be an injustice for someone not to get the gig because they were honest.
        Jade was always going to struggle to get the gig but I think he has acquitted himself very well.
        Only established coaches can call it as they see it so yes you can be too honest.
        Look at Aker and Eade, jeez there is a contrast in their communications to the media and only one of them will ever be a senior coach
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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

          Originally posted by Happy Days
          Rawlings should have the coaching job by now; he's completely transformed the club in his time there. All things considered, breaking even is a phenominal achievement.
          How has the club changed since he has been there?
          Its still the same Richmond. Ben Gale's appointment will keep them in the right direction for us non richmond fans.

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          • anfo27
            WOOF Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 2002

            #6
            Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

            I'd like to see Jade get the job because i loathe Richmond and think it would be a very bad move. I dont like what i have seen from Jade & they certainlyare not playing better football under him. I would love them to continue as the village idiots of the AFL for another 20 years.

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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7471

              #7
              Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

              I said to my Tiger supporting best mate at the start of the week that they should sign him up straight away. Their culture of dropping their heads has been evident for the past 10 years and no one has moved to fix it. Finally someone who is in charge questions it and he gets canned.

              Hopefully they don't sign him and get someone else who won't go in and charge their attitude.

              Ernie the club has changed by giving game time to younger players, dropping players who didn't play to his standards, getting rid of the old players who clog up the list (Bowden) and threatening young guns who have taken their spot in the team for granted. I hate Richmond with a passion but anyone claiming they haven't changed under Jade is taking their hatred to the depths of deludedville.

              I'm interested to hear how appointing Ben Gale is going to hinder them though.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66188

                #8
                Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                Originally posted by anfo27
                I'd like to see Jade get the job because i loathe Richmond and think it would be a very bad move. I dont like what i have seen from Jade & they certainlyare not playing better football under him. I would love them to continue as the village idiots of the AFL for another 20 years.
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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                  Originally posted by Topdog
                  Ernie the club has changed by giving game time to younger players, dropping players who didn't play to his standards, getting rid of the old players who clog up the list (Bowden) and threatening young guns who have taken their spot in the team for granted. I hate Richmond with a passion but anyone claiming they haven't changed under Jade is taking their hatred to the depths of deludedville.
                  Richmond need a culture change and Jade Rawlings ain't going to do it. Getting rid of old was expected under any new coach and any new club. Its hardly a revolution they need.

                  Originally posted by Topdog
                  I'm interested to hear how appointing Ben Gale is going to hinder them though.
                  Easy Ben Gale is a d...head of the highest order. Its great news for the APA.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #10
                    Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                    Going on last weeks and this weeks Richmond results, things have changed so much that they are now getting beaten by 50 and 100 points.

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                    • westdog54
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6686

                      #11
                      Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                      Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                      Easy Ben Gale is a d...head of the highest order. Its great news for the APA.
                      Would you mind clarifying that well constructed piece of analysis?

                      How has he set the APA backwards and how will he do the same with Richmond?

                      Or are you being blinded by your vehement hatred of the AFL's illicit drugs policy and the support the APA gives it?

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                      • The Coon Dog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7578

                        #12
                        Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                        Originally posted by westdog54
                        Or are you being blinded by your vehement hatred of the AFL's illicit drugs policy and the support the APA gives it?
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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14139

                          #13
                          Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                          Well it astounds me, new coach and they still find a way to implode within weeks, i bet Jade wishes he had not taken the reigns.
                          Not so much the team but the upstairs way of thinking.
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                          • Happy Days
                            Hall of Fame
                            • May 2008
                            • 10093

                            #14
                            Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                            Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                            How has the club changed since he has been there?
                            They're playing better than they were before?

                            Sure they're going to get belted; they're a junk team. But at least they've tried, and even at times looked good under Jade.

                            They were insipid under Terry, and have looked at least twice the team since he left.
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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                              Originally posted by westdog54
                              Would you mind clarifying that well constructed piece of analysis?

                              How has he set the APA backwards and how will he do the same with Richmond?

                              Or are you being blinded by your vehement hatred of the AFL's illicit drugs policy and the support the APA gives it?
                              Some great detective work there. How have you tied this up with the drugs debate?

                              Ben Gale being a dickhead is my opinion, I know a few others here think that. The AFLPA are much better with him gone.

                              Are you blinded by your vehement hatred of me?

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