Replacing Williams

[Rocco Jones]

I am not looking for a basic in and out here. Williams is out for at least 2 weeks and it could potentially be more, even the season. How are we going to re-structure our backline?

If not for so many of our runners being in doubt for the finals, I would say it could be a potential blessing in disguise (I would rather him in our best 22 either way though) with Morris playing solely as a KP defender, freeing up a spot for a runner/flanker. I think Morris and Lake were great against the Cats in the Prelim.

Do we bring in Tiller as a direct replacement for Williams? I see two main roles for a KP defender. One is to negate dangerous players and the other is to exploit weaker KP forwards going the other way. I think Morris and Lake fit the respective roles very well. While I rate Tiller and think he could fill a role in our side, I don't see it being as a KP defender.

Should we bring in Callan to help free up Morris to take taller opponents?

[chef]

Re: Replacing Williams

Callan may be handier this week against the cats as they rely more of their small and medium forwards to score. But then again Tiller has performed well with every chance he has gotten.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Replacing Williams

Callan may be handier this week against the cats as they rely more of their small and medium forwards to score. But then again Tiller has performed well with every chance he has gotten.

What role would Tiller play?

[azabob]

Re: Replacing Williams

I think Tiller offers us great flexability as in he can play on mid sized forwards and taller ones at a pinch.
However our best two options to replace Williams in Tiller and Callan haven't exactly had a great run on the injury front of late.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Replacing Williams

I think Tiller offers us great flexability as in he can play on mid sized forwards and taller ones at a pinch.
However our best two options to replace Williams in Tiller and Callan haven't exactly had a great run on the injury front of late.

I mentioned it in the other thread, but like comrade I would have Tiller playing on a small or medium. I really don't see Tiller as a tall defensive option. A bit like a poor man's Shaggy.

[azabob]

Re: Replacing Williams

I mentioned it in the other thread, but like comrade I would have Tiller playing on a small or medium. I really don't see Tiller as a tall defensive option. A bit like a poor man's Shaggy.

I agree as I did say at a pinch he could play on the talls. For example if we play the saints and Gardiner is resting forward surely Tiller would have to pick him up rather than Hargrave or Everitt?
Who would you have playing on Gardiner as the 3rd tall with Williams out?

[comrade]

Re: Replacing Williams

Is Boumann a sneaky chance this week?

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Replacing Williams

I agree as I did say at a pinch he could play on the talls. For example if we play the saints and Gardiner is resting forward surely Tiller would have to pick him up rather than Hargrave or Everitt?
Who would you have playing on Gardiner as the 3rd tall with Williams out?

Yeah that's a fair point bobby. I think Tiller could offer us a fair bit of versatility.

[azabob]

Re: Replacing Williams

Is Boumann a sneaky chance this week?

But Comrade which goal square would you play him in?

[chef]

Re: Replacing Williams

What role would Tiller play?

I see him being our third tall behind Morris and Lake. I think that Tiller could handle Hawkins if needed if Geelong play Ottens this week as a forward. If Geelong only have two talls in their forward line i would prefer Callan to come in instead.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Replacing Williams

Tiller for mine seems the logical option, although no one can really 'cover' for Tom. I guess we become a bit more horses for courses with our backline from now on, and any of Callan, Everitt and Addison as well as Tiller could be shots to nail down a spot for finals.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Replacing Williams

I see him being our third tall behind Morris and Lake. I think that Tiller could handle Hawkins if needed if Geelong play Ottens this week as a forward. If Geelong only have two talls in their forward line i would prefer Callan to come in instead.

Ottens is a wild card....how did he perform in the VFL last weekend?

Shaggy played really well against Port Adeliade when he lined up against Westhoff

Lake v Mooney
Morris v Hawkins

If Ottens plays then switch Lake over to him and put Shaggy on Mooney

Callan or Tiller will depend on who is fitter...I would choose Callan over Tiller though and go with a shorter and quicker creative backline

Ottens wont be a massive fixture coming off an extensive layoff

[Happy Days]

Re: Replacing Williams

Ottens is a wild card....how did he perform in the VFL last weekend?

Shaggy played really well against Port Adeliade when he lined up against Westhoff

Lake v Mooney
Morris v Hawkins

If Ottens plays then switch Lake over to him and put Shaggy on Mooney

Callan or Tiller will depend on who is fitter...I would choose Callan over Tiller though and go with a shorter and quicker creative backline

Ottens wont be a massive fixture coming off an extensive layoff

Mooney has about 25kgs on Westhoff, he would monster Shaggy.

[chef]

Re: Replacing Williams

Ottens is a wild card....how did he perform in the VFL last weekend?

Shaggy played really well against Port Adeliade when he lined up against Westhoff

Lake v Mooney
Morris v Hawkins

If Ottens plays then switch Lake over to him and put Shaggy on Mooney

Callan or Tiller will depend on who is fitter...I would choose Callan over Tiller though and go with a shorter and quicker creative backline

Ottens wont be a massive fixture coming off an extensive layoff

I think your forgetting Geelongs best forward. Hargrave will play on Steve Johnson.

[The Pie Man]

Re: Replacing Williams

Shaggy played really well against Port Adeliade when he lined up against Westhoff

Lake v Mooney
Morris v Hawkins

The Westhoff's are Shaggy's bread & butter - I know he's tall (198) but his mobility is medium-forward like (if that makes sense) and I think Tiller can play these type of roles as well (as Rocco has alluded to previously)

Slightly off topic for a moment - I think someone like Westhoff has some soul searching to do, Shaggy gave him a real bath earlier this year and I saw a very un-competitive effort from him against Carlton, resulting in only 7 touches. Clearly a skinny talent worth persevering with once he puts on weight, but I'd be worried about the lack of effort at times.

Back on topic - I'd play Lake on Hawkins and Morris on Mooney