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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44338

    #31
    Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

    If it's wet conditions I wonder if Tim Callan comes into the mix for Sam Reid?
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    • Desipura
      WOOF Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 4344

      #32
      Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

      Originally posted by Mantis
      With rain forecasted for this weeks game do we need to alter our team for these conditions?

      Outside players like Eagleton & Hill may not be as effective in slogging conditions, whereas a hard bodied player like Reid will come into his own.
      Regardless of conditions or if they are not suited to slogging conditions, these 2 have shown enough form to be automatically selected for this weeks game. Griffen & Hudson will come in for Reid & Everitt which will address the hard body issue.

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15324

        #33
        Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

        Originally posted by Desipura
        Regardless of conditions or if they are not suited to slogging conditions, these 2 have shown enough form to be automatically selected for this weeks game.
        We need to pick our best 22 for every game taking into account the type of game that is expected to be played. No doubt the game against Geelong will be a tough & physical encounter, especially if it's wet, so I hope we pick a team suited to this type of game.

        Look I am only throwing out an idea and whatever way you look at it it will be a tough week at the selection table.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66176

          #34
          Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

          Originally posted by Mantis
          We need to pick our best 22 for every game taking into account the type of game that is expected to be played. No doubt the game against Geelong will be a tough & physical encounter, especially if it's wet, so I hope we pick a team suited to this type of game.

          Look I am only throwing out an idea and whatever way you look at it it will be a tough week at the selection table.
          The other crucial thing at selection will be match ups.
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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15324

            #35
            Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

            Originally posted by bornadog
            The other crucial thing at selection will be match ups.
            Yep.

            Reid did a really good job on Bartel just last week so I think that should be taken into account.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44338

              #36
              Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Yep.

              Reid did a really good job on Bartel just last week so I think that should be taken into account.

              Good point. Hopefully he is close to 100% fit as he can be and the pressure is right on the selectors.
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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #37
                Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                Originally posted by gogriff
                Out: Reid, Everitt
                In: Griffen, Hudson
                Tough call but I think I agree with this. Everitt finally showed me last night that he does like to play on the wing and used his speed to advantage. I don't think Reid has done anything wrong - was a little quiet - but it's hard to leave Griff and Huddo out of the mix if they are fit to fight (or is that fighting fit?? )

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                • Desipura
                  WOOF Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4344

                  #38
                  Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  We need to pick our best 22 for every game taking into account the type of game that is expected to be played. No doubt the game against Geelong will be a tough & physical encounter, especially if it's wet, so I hope we pick a team suited to this type of game.

                  Look I am only throwing out an idea and whatever way you look at it it will be a tough week at the selection table.
                  Totally agree about the selection nightmare. Here's one out of left field, if Hudson does not come up does Skipper come in or.................way way out of left field Roughead?
                  Either way, I do not think we can go into this match with only one ruckman like last night.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    #39
                    Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                    Huddo and Griff will return. Williams shouldn't unless his Willy form is bloody good.

                    I think the MC will go with Picken and Welsh over Everitt and Reid. But i wouldn't mind personally if they
                    didnt.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66176

                      #40
                      Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Huddo and Griff will return. Williams shouldn't unless his Willy form is bloody good.

                      I think the MC will go with Picken and Welsh over Everitt and Reid. But i wouldn't mind personally if they
                      didnt.
                      Sounds like you think Picken should be dropped? I thought he did a great job last night playing on a number of Colligwood smalls.
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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6407

                        #41
                        Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Huddo and Griff will return. Williams shouldn't unless his Willy form is bloody good.

                        I think the MC will go with Picken and Welsh over Everitt and Reid. But i wouldn't mind personally if they
                        didnt
                        .
                        Happy enough that you're not on the match committee in that case!!

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14870

                          #42
                          Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          Outside players like Eagleton & Hill may not be as effective in slogging conditions, whereas a hard bodied player like Reid will come into his own.
                          I think Eagleton would be quite handy as he is a harder body than many give him credit for, and in addition in slogging conditions anyone who can run the ball will be valuable.

                          Hill is an interesting idea but I'm not sure Eade would be prepared to sacrifice his "X factor" on the eve of the finals.

                          I'd like to find a way to keep Reid in the side & give him Bartel again.

                          Everitt will be unlucky but Hudson is a definite in for mine, we can gain an ascendancy in the ruck and any advantage is something we need to exploint.

                          Personally I'd drop Gia before Reid based on fitness & form but that wont happen.
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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #43
                            Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Sounds like you think Picken should be dropped? I thought he did a great job last night playing on a number of Colligwood smalls.
                            No, not really. I think there are about 26 players who could play and represent the team well. Reid offers something a little different to Picken, as does Picken to Reid. I love that there's a divergence of opinion, because for the last few years we have not had a massive selection crunch.

                            I'm not suggesting Picken and Welsh should be dropped, but there will be some healthy debate at MC as there should. Welsh underperformed last year and whilst he was servicable on the weekend, does Andreajs offer anything more. I would think he may just, but Welsh's experience will count for more. Reid and Picken are fighting for the last spot and both have legitimate cliams for it. Picken will probably get the nod, but the other will be unlucky. Hence the comment, don't mind which way they go.

                            I'm just stoked we are a position to be having a debate on the players and that players will be genuinely unlucky to be dropped. It's a nice position to be in when all the players know they need to play out of their skins to keep getting selected for the next finals game, otherwise the emergencies are right there ready to get the next game. All bodes well for the doggies.
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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66176

                              #44
                              Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              No, not really. I think there are about 26 players who could play and represent the team well. Reid offers something a little different to Picken, as does Picken to Reid. I love that there's a divergence of opinion, because for the last few years we have not had a massive selection crunch.

                              I'm not suggesting Picken and Welsh should be dropped, but there will be some healthy debate at MC as there should. Welsh underperformed last year and whilst he was servicable on the weekend, does Andreajs offer anything more. I would think he may just, but Welsh's experience will count for more. Reid and Picken are fighting for the last spot and both have legitimate cliams for it. Picken will probably get the nod, but the other will be unlucky. Hence the comment, don't mind which way they go.

                              I'm just stoked we are a position to be having a debate on the players and that players will be genuinely unlucky to be dropped. It's a nice position to be in when all the players know they need to play out of their skins to keep getting selected for the next finals game, otherwise the emergencies are right there ready to get the next game. All bodes well for the doggies.
                              Its a great position to be in and probably the first time in our history we have been in a position like this.

                              I can't wait for Saturday.
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                              • Hot_Doggies
                                Rookie List
                                • May 2009
                                • 396

                                #45
                                Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                                Originally posted by Happy Days
                                Depends on who we play really.

                                Against a Geelong or a Collingwood, I'm comfortable having Morris and Brian take their two key targets, because Morris is far above them, and strength in one-on-one contests can be covered in other areas.

                                Against Brisbane and the Saints, I'd want Tommy back, because I'm not 100% confident with Morris on Brown/Bradshaw/Kossie/Riewoldt, no matter how good past performances have been.

                                As for this week, I would have the following (assuming the suggested in's are ready to go);

                                In: Griffen, Hudson
                                Out: Everitt, Reid

                                Both are very unlucky, but they are players 21 & 22.
                                Who takes Ottens?

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